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    Quote Originally Posted by darrell
    Some states have a law that spells out the legal age lets say 16. Then untill that person is 18 it is CSC is the other half is more then 5 years older. like this 16 (girl) and 22 (male) concent can't be given due to the male being more then 5 years older then the female. Then at 18 the other party can give all the concent they wish. So this senario is ok 16 (girl) and a 17(boy) that is legal in that consumption of the law.
    This is what I thought also. BUT I think the law has a double standard when it comes to homosexual relationships. I think then the age of consent is greater. Maybe I heard it wrong, though.
    I have no problem with gay relationships, but I have a problem with this one. If a 24 yr old guy wanted to date my 17 yr old daughter, I'd have a problem with it. I agree that the age difference is too great.

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    The number of years difference between them really is regardless with this. The true issue is there is a MAN asking if it is legal for him to sodomize a BOY! All Americans have the right to live their lives with dignity and pride regardless of their lifestyle, so long as it does not hurt or disrupt the lives of others. Having sex with a BOY, who is barely old enough to drive a car, is not healthy or respectful to the proper mental development of that kid. Perhaps instead of consulting a Police website, try NAMBLA. Or better yet, ask a lawyer (then keep him around, I have a funny feeling you'll be needing one someday!)...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BryGuy
    The number of years difference between them really is regardless with this. The true issue is there is a MAN asking if it is legal for him to sodomize a BOY! All Americans have the right to live their lives with dignity and pride regardless of their lifestyle, so long as it does not hurt or disrupt the lives of others. Having sex with a BOY, who is barely old enough to drive a car, is not healthy or respectful to the proper mental development of that kid. Perhaps instead of consulting a Police website, try NAMBLA. Or better yet, ask a lawyer (then keep him around, I have a funny feeling you'll be needing one someday!)...
    Sodomy? According to who? I don't consider it sodomy, nor does the state of MI.

    Shoot, by 17, he's already sexually active, I doubt more sex is going to be detrimental to his mental development. You're going to have to backup that statement with something. Articulate your reasoning here. Most people I know have been sexually active since 17 and I would consider them have "proper mental development."


    "The number of years difference between them really is regardless with this."

    I know what you were trying to say, but it doesn't make any sense. Maybe the word "irrelevant" will better suit your statement.

    Again, I do not agree with his intimate ambitions, and I would hope that the 17 year old has enough sense to not allow a relationship to begin.

    I'm curious, would you believe that one's "mental development" is at risk if it were a 24 year old female having consentual sex with a 17 year old boy?
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    Is a 17 year old able to enter into a legal binding contract (in most states)? No.. why? Because most states recognize that a 17 year old is not competant enough to make such life important decisions. A 17 year old is barely old enough to see an R rated movie! I agree that most 17 year olds are sexually active and I feel that although at 17 we were all horny as heck, we weren't ready for the ramifications it can bring (emotional stress, teen parenthood, std's etc etc etc). When 17 year old kids routinely go into emotional tailspins over life events such as: A bad grade, a break up, getting grounded, getting a pimple on prom night....I hardly see a CHILD ready to take on the adult role of letting a man sodomize, YES sodomize him. Perhaps The state of Michigan does not consider this sodomy, but Mariam Webster sure does!

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    imalazypup,
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    sod.om.y - n - Any of various forms of sexual intercourse held to be unnatural or abnormal, especially anal intercourse.

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    Thanks everyone for your input without beating me up too bad, i'm glad to see the maturity and professionalism i'd expect from police officers.

    All this talk over sodomy though, I haven't seen too much on sodomy laws in this state. And who said anything at all about that being what I wanted with him? There is more to a gay relationship than sex. We share all of the same intimacies as a m/f couple. And yes, some of you are right, he's already been sexually active and is the most mature 17 year old I know.

    But what is the difference in a few months until he is 18? That doesn't make sense and assuming by some of you that he somehow becomes an adult in a matter of a few months? Get real, there are no life changes in a few months that could change his views that drastically.

    So morally you all think this is wrong? So by that respect a 34 yo dating a 27 year old is bad too? Its not that much of an age gap. Would you feel the same way about a 24 yo FEMALE dating a 17 yo MALE?

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    I don't think anything changes from 17years 364 days and 18 at all. And, I assumed that sex was going to be involved because of the nature of the question. Also, there's nada wrong with a 34 y/o and a 27 y/o, because the 27 y/o has had time to grow, mature, make mistakes and learn along the way.... a 17/18 yo is just starting out. Laws, morals and beliefs can never come between true feelings for a person....just don't be one of this kids mistakes.

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    If a few months don't matter, then you can wait until he's 18 right? I still don't like the age difference, but at least when he's 18, legally you have nothing to worry about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dragonspider
    I beg to differ... A 17 year old is not legally bound to the same standards as an 18 year old. As previously mentioned, a 17 year old cannot legally consume tobacco, vote, buy lottery tickets, etc.... This is because the individual is NOT of legal age to participate in such acts. The legislature has determined 18 for all of these "less immoral" acts, but has determined that it is "ok" for this same person who isn't responsible enough to smoke a cigarette, to consent to engage in a sex act with an adult?

    Originally from Michigan myself, I'm ashamed of the State for condoning such acts by such a legislation.

    Noted...However, I thought the legal Homosexual Consent age was 18 as well, based on a link that another member of this board provided several months ago on another topic. Though, when I went back to find that link, I could not longer find that section I read...Hence I looked up, to the best of my idiologic abilities and found the two sections I posted before...Let me go back and repost it.

    You are correct about the contracts and such...but sex is not a contract, and my interpretation of the law that I posted leads me to believe that the consent age is 16 there for it would not longer be a status crime, hence the BOY is an adult. If we are talking about criminal charges, 17 is the age when every Michigander becomes an ADULT.

    Just my take on it.

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    750.10a Sexually delinquent persons; definition.

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    The term “sexually delinquent person” when used in this act shall mean any person whose sexual behavior is characterized by repetitive or compulsive acts which indicate a disregard of consequences or the recognized rights of others, or by the use of force upon another person in attempting sex relations of either a heterosexual or homosexual nature, or by the commission of sexual aggressions against children under the age of 16.

    History: Add. 1952, Act 73, Eff. Sept. 18, 1952 .

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