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  1. 04-14-04 05:54 AM #1
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    Illegal Lottery

    Why is this illegal? Should they have called it a raffle instead?

    When Wayne County police busted an illegal lottery run out of a person's home, they discovered more than $2 million in cash.

    Investigators tell Action News that they have never seen anything like it.

    Last month police busted a lottery-style gambling ring. Today, they issued arrest warrants for six people, among them, five family members, suspected of running the ring.

    Sheriff’s deputies seized stacks and stacks of cash, totaling $2.2 million, in what they call the biggest lottery-style gambling ring they have ever seen.

    According to Wayne County Sheriff Warren Evans, one family spanning three generations ran the illegal gambling ring in Detroit and Oak Park.

    Investigators say the black-market bookies ran an operation identical to the legal Michigan State Lottery, with midday and evening drawings that paid out winnings based on the same three and four-digit numbers.

    It also appears that the illegal, untaxed business operation paid a substantially increased premium over the Michigan Lottery.

    Investigators expect all six suspects to turn themselves in today. If the investigators get a conviction in the case, they can keep the $2.2 million that they’ve seized to fight crime.
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  2. 04-14-04 06:26 AM #2
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    Why is this illegal? Should they have called it a raffle instead?

    Calling it a raffle would still have made it illegal. Usually a raffle is for a non-profit organization, raising money for a charity, ect. It is illegal because most states have a law against gambling.
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    So they should have done it on a reservation or Nevada? Then would it have been legal?
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    Sorry this is a bit tongue-in-cheek but what's that old line about the government hating competition?

    And the loss of tax? Well that would motivate a government to do something about it for sure ;)

    But the implied question put by Orleander is important - why is gambling illegal anyway? Who says I shouldn't blow a few bucks wagering with that gentleman in the bar who sits in the corner and has a small radio and today's form guide in front of him? Isn't it a private matter between me and my bookie?
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    Talking about illegal lottery....

    Did any of you ever received a Reader Digest Sweepstake or Time Magazine contest???

    This thing really pissed me off....

    My father(he is 63) received an envellope 3 years ago from Time Magazine .... He showed it to me and this advertizing was stating that "he was only a stamp away from winning 2.5 millions"...
    I read the whole thing and... seriously .... It made me wonder if it could be true... Knowing from first hand experience that when it is to nice to be true.... then... it is not true! There was no little inscription at the bottom of the page.... nothing at all .... It was written in BOLD "You are the winner" !!!

    So my father seriously beleived into it and, considering there was a expiry date on it, sent back the paper with the stamped certificat apposed.... He sent it by Purolator and it costed him 18$.... :(

    Of course... he never won anything!!!! We called in New York and I tried like hell to give **** to the legal firm that organize that kind of contest.... Of course nobody ever called me back...
    I filed a complaint in Quebec Ministery of lottery and race.... they received the complaint ... told me they would do an investigation.... came back(after a year) stating that in fact the contest was illegal because of what they have made us beleive BUT could not do anything because it is a mail contest and the organizer is based in USA. :mad:

    My father got so pissed off that he called Time Magazine and cancelled his subscription...

    Anyone ever went trough that kind of BS...?
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    Poor bloke - nope that stuff just gets dumped in my recycle bin.
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    What is a numbers scheme?
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    Funny you should mention it! I got one of those today: James -------, you just won $18,000,000! Congratulations! I read the back of the little sweepstakes thing and it said something along the lines of: "Of the several people who have been mailed this letter, you could be one of the winners! All you need to do is send this back with a stamp for your chance to win in a drawing for $18,000,000"

    I hate junk mail =\
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    It also appears that the illegal, untaxed business operation paid a substantially increased premium over the Michigan Lottery.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ngcsubutterbar
    It also appears that the illegal, untaxed business operation paid a substantially increased premium over the Michigan Lottery.
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    substantially increased premium what??? English!!!! Winners got more money? Paid more for a ticket?
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    no I meant the untaxed part dear I haven't a clue as to what the last part means either.
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