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    Police employment obligation query

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    He signed a contract that requires him to repay cost of training and pay??? Where is that? I never heard of such a thing.

    I wouldn't quit if I were him, let them fire him. At least he'll be eligible for unemployment.
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    You just gotta realize he is hard of hearing and cranky, and try to speak up more clearly next time and make it perfectly clear what you were saying so there is no misinterpretation. You gotta try not to get mad at the old guy, recognizing the issue at hand.

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    Let them fire him. That's obviously why they want him to quit.
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    You just gotta realize he is hard of hearing and cranky, and try to speak up more clearly next time and make it perfectly clear what you were saying so there is no misinterpretation. You gotta try not to get mad at the old guy, recognizing the issue at hand.

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    You said he's been there approximately a year. Usually after one year your probation is up, and according to #4 after that he should be off the hook right?

    Is #7 also during the first year or is that period?

    I would also think if he were still on probation they wouldn't be trying so hard to make him quit because they could likely let him go for whatever reason they choose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ParsProToto View Post
    I honestly think its because they want to recoup the cost of his training and deny unemployment comp.
    Sounds like it to me too.
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    You just gotta realize he is hard of hearing and cranky, and try to speak up more clearly next time and make it perfectly clear what you were saying so there is no misinterpretation. You gotta try not to get mad at the old guy, recognizing the issue at hand.

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    Where is this bizarre place, anyway? None of this makes any sense to me.

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    It's not 2 years salary that you'll have to pay. Every month, 1/24th of the total due is forgiven. If he quits after 6 months, he'll own 18/24th of the cost. If he quits after 22 months, he'll owe 2/24th. I've seen that. I've also seen recruits having been required to pay for their training and were only reimbursed upon reaching a certain anniversary. If they left before that, they get nothing.

    Tell him not to quit. Log everything that happens every day (if I have to "log" something, I send myself an email on my personal email. It's a way of adding a date/time stamp and therefore a little bit of validity to proving a "pattern", if need be).

    How about this: how sure are you that you're getting 100% of the truthful story? Is it possible that he's just not feeling the job, and is buttering you up for the day he quits? a

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    As a Supervisor I can see everyones point, however there is a GOOD possibilty that he may actually be using bad Officer safety, etc. and the Supervisors are actually concerned that he is going to end up "getting himself killed".

    I know I have dealt with SEVERAL "new hires" that I have had the EXACT discussion on NUMEROUS occassions.

    He may not be "cut out" for LE.

    BUT, he may actually be doing a good job and someone just "has it in for him". The latter happens more often.
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    Sounds like you have to figure out whether he's a bad cop or it's a bad department. If it's that he's a bad cop, though it's hard to do, he has to be honest with himself and hang it up. He isn't helping anyone if he's unsafe out there.

    I just find it hard to believe if he was truly a danger to himself or others they wouldn't just fire him. He is on probation so it probably would be fairly easy, unless they are truly that hard up for money.
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    It's honestly hard to figure out the intentions of the PD. We LEOs can't burn the PD because there's a possibility your husband may not be cut out for LE work. On the other hand, it could be because of the contract and the fact that the PD wants some of the money back they've invested in him. My agency has a 5-year contract and it's prorated if you leave before that 5-year period. If the supervisors are creating hostile work environment with no documentation to support it, I suggest checking with your local human rights office or the EEOC. Some states have a human rights office/commission for state matters that help get it to the federal EEOC arena. Your husband shouldn't have to go into work and get reamed for no reason. If the supervisors/FTOs are not providing reasons (particularly in writing) of their concerns, then it sounds like there's more to it. I understand you don't have the money for an attorney, but in civil cases many will only require a retainer and not seek the rest unless the action against the defendant(s) was won.

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