Looking to Join NYPD just need a little info

[McNulty]

My department would probably not hire someone with a DUI on their record. We won't even look at an application unless 5 years has elapsed from the time of conviction or arrest. No one I know of has one on their record and works here. Here if you are picked up for DUI after you are hired, it's nearly always an automatic firing. Couldn't imagine us picking someone up with a DUI arrest or conviction already on their record.

Hopefully you're only firing them if they're convicted.

[cntryboy0531]

Hopefully you're only firing them if they're convicted.

No they are usually fired prior to conviction. Either they blow over the limit, or they refuse and their license is gone for a year. Either way they'll be canned before it goes to court. Most will resign prior to being fired. We usually get one or two arrests a year unfortunately, and they usually always end up this way. I don't agree with it, but I'm just a peon at the bottom of the pole.

[Spccmdd87]

[QUOTE=cntryboy0531;1153648]No they are usually fired prior to conviction. Either they blow over the limit, or they refuse and their license is gone for a year. Either way they'll be canned before it goes to court. Most will resign prior to being fired. We usually get one or two arrests a year unfortunately, and they usually always end up this way. I don't agree with it, but I'm just a peon at the bottom of the pole.[/QUOTE

So you don't agree with them being fired? But you are basically saying I don't stand a chance in law enforcement? You are kind of contradicting yourself. Or am I reading this wrong?

[McNulty]

No they are usually fired prior to conviction. Either they blow over the limit, or they refuse and their license is gone for a year. Either way they'll be canned before it goes to court. Most will resign prior to being fired. We usually get one or two arrests a year unfortunately, and they usually always end up this way. I don't agree with it, but I'm just a peon at the bottom of the pole.

So much for innocent until proven guilty.

No they are usually fired prior to conviction. Either they blow over the limit, or they refuse and their license is gone for a year. Either way they'll be canned before it goes to court. Most will resign prior to being fired. We usually get one or two arrests a year unfortunately, and they usually always end up this way. I don't agree with it, but I'm just a peon at the bottom of the pole.

So you don't agree with them being fired? But you are basically saying I don't stand a chance in law enforcement? You are kind of contradicting yourself. Or am I reading this wrong?

I don't agree with people being fired for being suspected of committing a crime that they haven't been found guilty of in a court of law, no.

You're in a different boat, you've admitted to guilt and accepted an alternative sentencing program (probation). There's a difference between trying to get a job and already having that job and trying to keep it. Obviously, the threshold for misconduct or alleged misconduct will be much lower for the person who doesn't even work there yet, especially considering how easy it is to find another applicant who doesn't have a prior DUI. It's not that easy when someone's already worked there for some time. Not to mention whatever legal employment rights you may have.

[cntryboy0531]

[quote=Spccmdd87;1153649]

No they are usually fired prior to conviction. Either they blow over the limit, or they refuse and their license is gone for a year. Either way they'll be canned before it goes to court. Most will resign prior to being fired. We usually get one or two arrests a year unfortunately, and they usually always end up this way. I don't agree with it, but I'm just a peon at the bottom of the pole.[/QUOTE


So you don't agree with them being fired? But you are basically saying I don't stand a chance in law enforcement? You are kind of contradicting yourself. Or am I reading this wrong?

You're reading it wrong. I am telling you, that with my department, you would not stand a chance at being hired. I don't make the hiring decisions, I can just tell you from experience (and agency policy) that we don't hire folks with prior DUI's, and generally will fire officers who have been charged with DUI, without an adjudication of guilt first.

I don't agree with firing someone, without first having their case adjudicated. And even then, when an agency has invested both time and money in training, and retaining someone who may otherwise be a stellar officer, a first time DUI should "probably" not be a career killer for someone already here if they have an otherwise stellar career, and has otherwise done great work. Unfortunately this job can, and has, lead otherwise good officers to find "help" in the bottom of a bottle of booze. Administratively they should be held accountable, and of course criminally, but I think treatment should be evaluated IN ADDITION to those penalities, instead of "sorry about your luck, but goodbye" to someone who has given a fair amount of themselves to both this job and their communities.

There is a significant difference between that circumstance, and "I got a DUI a few years ago, can I become a cop now?". Two completely difference situations. Other departments will hire someone with a prior DUI, ours will not.