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Judge Revokes Lindsay Lohan's Probation, Sets Bail at $40K - ABC News (http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/lindsay-lohan-arrives-court-felony-grand-theft-hearing/story?id=12874980&page=2)

When are they going to lock her up for a while? Had this been anyone else, they would have thrown her in jail. Can't believe the judge keeps telling her "One more chance" and in court tells her "You really need to obey the law". At this point, judicial hearings and court appearances like this have dropped to a minor annoyance. She needs to go to jail for a while. And not just 14 days after being released due to overcrowding. In prison, for several years..

You have to ask yourself though if she's getting anything special? It takes a lot to get to prison for anyone. I'm as sick of reading about her as anyone, but I don't think she should get hammered more than somebody not famous.

You have to ask yourself though if she's getting anything special? It takes a lot to get to prison for anyone. I'm as sick of reading about her as anyone, but I don't think she should get hammered more than somebody not famous.

I know here in Florida at least, with the two times she's been found in violation of her probation, she'd be sitting in prison. Hell, everyone i've arrested for VOP here, is held on a no bond status until the probationary hearing to decide judgement. I've had people sent back to prison for the length of their sentence for violating their probation when they catch felony charges while out on probation.

I can get someone locked up for 72 hrs for violatiing their DUI probation of NO alcohol consumption.

You do realize that if she does go to prison we will hear even more about her.
What is Lindsey Lohan wearing while in prison
What is Lindsey Lohan eating while in prison
What is Lindsey Lohan doing in prison for (insert holiday)
It'll go on and on.

I know here in Florida at least, with the two times she's been found in violation of her probation, she'd be sitting in prison. Hell, everyone i've arrested for VOP here, is held on a no bond status until the probationary hearing to decide judgement. I've had people sent back to prison for the length of their sentence for violating their probation when they catch felony charges while out on probation.

She's only been convicted of DUI though, am I right? Unless it's a felony DUI, she wouldn't go to prison in Oregon. Jail for a while, yes, but not prison. If I remember right, she hasn't been convicted of any kind of felony.

IMnshO, if we want to make headway into crime reduction, we need to start chopping off hands and/or heads...

CA is PATHETIC on crime (all around wise). One of our special teams just took down three related MJ full-scale grow houses in three different cities. Crop confiscated was valued at over 4 mil. Each house was estimated to be making about 150k a month. Guess what the three ringleaders got (each)? 180 days in jail, 3 years probation, narcotics registration, and $27,000.00 restitution to Edison for stolen electricity/power.

And I could probably take up all of this sites bandwidth with similar stories of laughable punishment/penalties, weak DDA's, dropped cases, ETC...

That's pretty much the way it is up here in Oregon when it comes to drug charges of almost any kind. We have mandatory minimum sentencing on violent crimes that's pretty severe, but property and drug crimes are still quite lax

For a DUI, she'd have probably done 30 days or so in county jail for probation violation. You have to have a felony conviction to go to prison here.

I thought she was previously convicted of a felony dope charge?

Either way, with a new Felony charge, being on probation to begin with, she should be sitting in jail for a while. Around here our judges usually hold them on no bond status for a while. Hell, I've violated people's misdemeanore probation for tacking on a new misdemeanor charge, and they are still held on no bond. Maybe Florida is just strict with VOP issues?

I can get someone locked up for 72 hrs for violatiing their DUI probation of NO alcohol consumption.

Do tell me how...

Do tell me how...

In Oregon, it takes a parole/probation officer to violate someone. Cops can't do it.

In Oregon, it takes a parole/probation officer to violate someone. Cops can't do it.

That's unfortuante. We can in Florida, and I've done so quite often, and we are encourged to do so. On one occasion I used it to eliminate a problem child in a neighborhood. A local scrote bag was out flashing his wang to a neighbor after he was confronted about doing something else stupid. A couple other people witnessed it. In Florida, that is considered Exposure of Sexual Organs. However, it is only a Misdemeanor, and not a misdemeanor exception, therefore I have to witness it in order to make a physical arrest. However, I can write the incident up and formally charge him by affidavit. Just so happens he was on probation for a felony, manufacturing marijuana. Terms of all probations? Can't be charged with a new crime while on probation.

So, I informed him based on statements I was going to charge him by affidavit for the exposure, and he would recieve paperwork to appear in court on the Misdemeanor charge. I then arrested him for violating his probation. :biggrin5:

Judge upheld the violation and sentenced him to a year and a day state prison. Needless to say, we didn't have any further problems out of the neighborhood. :biggrin5:

I didn't have to witness any kind of misdemeanor as long as I have witnesses in order to make an arrest. But to arrest on for violation of parole or probation, I'd have to contact the PO (can be done by phone) and then take someone in for it, but the PO would have to call the jail and put the hold on.

In Oregon, it takes a parole/probation officer to violate someone. Cops can't do it.

I thought it was that way here too. That's why I want to know lol. I do know we can arrest on warrants from Probation though, I've done it.

I didn't have to witness any kind of misdemeanor as long as I have witnesses in order to make an arrest. But to arrest on for violation of parole or probation, I'd have to contact the PO (can be done by phone) and then take someone in for it, but the PO would have to call the jail and put the hold on.

Yeah, there are only a handful of Misdemeanore exceptions in Florida. When I went through the academy, there was only 12. Those are the only kinds of Misdemeanors I can make an arrest on, based on probable cause. Everything else, I must witness. Otherwise, it's charge by affidavit.

However on parole or probation violations, I can initiate and arrest on myself. Some cops I know say we can't and refuse to do them. However, State Statute says any law enforcement officer or probation officer. I've yet to have one PO tell me he didn't want me to do them. I was thanked by a couple of them for sending a problem child back to prison for them. lol.

I had a senior deputy mentor me my first year or two working on how to use the probation stuff to my benefit. It's an excellent tool to use to take care of problems you are having with select individuals. He told me he had a few people found not guilty of the new crime he charged them with, also called new law violations, (He didn't stack bad charges, the jury just found the guy not guilty) and after the trial was over, the suspect was found in violation of probation for the "new law violation", and still sent back to prison anyways. Which those to my knowledge don't require a jury. Just the judge. :biggrin5:

Yeah, there are only a handful of Misdemeanore exceptions in Florida. When I went through the academy, there was only 12. Those are the only kinds of Misdemeanors I can make an arrest on, based on probable cause. Everything else, I must witness. Otherwise, it's charge by affidavit.



Wow, not that seems foreign to me. I could and would have arrested the guy you described for indecent exposure in a heartbeat as long as I had a witness. In fact, even as a sex crimes detective, that was the only misdemeanor we worked and I routinely tracked down people and threw them in jail for stuff like that.

I guess I had it better than I thought. I never had to screw with magistrates or anyone else after I made an arrest. I took them directly to jail, left a custody report listing only the charges and made sure the DA got copies of my report before the next court date. If it was a misdemeanor, we had a guy assigned to the DA's office who signed the complaints for us.

I can't recall ever being in a situation where I wished I could violate someone's probation or parole, to be honest. At a scene, I could take them for whatever reason I was called there for. I think the jail notified P.O.'s if one of their charges came in because a lot of times when I checked later, I saw they had a hold put on them for a violation. And I never said anything to them.

Wow, not that seems foreign to me. I could and would have arrested the guy you described for indecent exposure in a heartbeat as long as I had a witness. In fact, even as a sex crimes detective, that was the only misdemeanor we worked and I routinely tracked down people and threw them in jail for stuff like that.

I guess I had it better than I thought. I never had to screw with magistrates or anyone else after I made an arrest. I took them directly to jail, left a custody report listing only the charges and made sure the DA got copies of my report before the next court date. If it was a misdemeanor, we had a guy assigned to the DA's office who signed the complaints for us.

I can't recall ever being in a situation where I wished I could violate someone's probation or parole, to be honest. At a scene, I could take them for whatever reason I was called there for. I think the jail notified P.O.'s if one of their charges came in because a lot of times when I checked later, I saw they had a hold put on them for a violation. And I never said anything to them.

I don't have to deal with judges either. When I make an arrest off of probable cause, I just do the charging affidavit, and drop them off at book in. I don't have to talk with a judge, nothing. Most of the times, that's the last I ever see of the guy, or hear of the case. The only time I contact a judge during the arrest process is if I want to call the on call judge and request a higher bond, or request no bond status for an offense that usually has one.

The Misdemeanor exceptions really don't come into play too often. Most of the major ones, I can arrest for, and I can only think of a few handful of time's I had to explain to a reportee that I couldn't arrest someone due to the misdemeanor exception rule. To be honest, it helps curb "fishing expeditions" between people looking for charges to apply to one another to send each other to jail for the night. Most of the time's I told someone I couldn't arrest, was because they were going on a fishing expedition to take care of someone they were having a feud with. Those tried my patience as usually both parties were equally at fault for the entire situation.

I heard somewhere that Paris Hilton was released early because they were worried about her with other prisoners. Could that have helped the decison? I can imagine a lot of bad publicity if somebody like Lindsey Lohan gets a attacked by another prisoner.

I heard somewhere that Paris Hilton was released early because they were worried about her with other prisoners. Could that have helped the decison? I can imagine a lot of bad publicity if somebody like Lindsey Lohan gets a attacked by another prisoner.

I would think they let Paris Hilton go early because they were afraid she'd just walk out through the bars anyway...

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I would think they let Paris Hilton go early because they were afraid she'd just walk out through the bars anyway...

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You never know. She may pork up nicely without all that crack.

Those comments made my day. I guess they didn't use handcuffs when she was arrested.

I heard somewhere that Paris Hilton was released early because they were worried about her with other prisoners. Could that have helped the decison? I can imagine a lot of bad publicity if somebody like Lindsey Lohan gets a attacked by another prisoner.

Isolation cells and protective custody are such beautiful things.