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Ok, Creeky, not only do I think we're gonna take back the House and the Senate, I think you're gonna see healthcare legislation repealed, Cap and Trade completely nixed, and Republicans come up with a budget that will carve into all those untouchable entitlements for the first time in the history of this Republic. If this happens, the economy will really take off. There's a trillion+ frozen in the business coffers because of all the uncertainty caused by Obama's economic lurch to the left....but November elections are gonna sweep in a belt-tightening mentality that will induce all that private capital to be unleashed, spurring on the economy in a way that capitalism-haters can never grasp. And you Tea Partiers will have been key!
Have faith...change is a comin :) Keep up the push.....
retdetsgt
10-09-10, 08:46 AM
Healthcare might be repealed and this other stuff passed, but it will all get vetoed by Obama. I can't see the Republicans are going to get anywhere near a veto proof majority in either house.
The majority of the country isn't all that far to the right. Obama did get elected ya know, as well as all the other Democrats. Republicans blew it and went too far and that's how they lost the presidency and Congress to begin with.
The majority of the country isn't all that far to the right. Obama did get elected ya know, as well as all the other Democrats. Republicans blew it and went too far and that's how they lost the presidency and Congress to begin with.
We Republicans DID blow it and no one's going to tolerate that stupidity again. I agree with ya, RDS, I think most of this country is to the right of the middle, I am to the right of middle, and I think that's exactly the mood of people in these elections as well. When I say to the right of middle, that includes a lot of Democrats as well.
It's not about extreme issues on either side for a change....it's about getting this country back in fiscal order. I say it's going to be a sweeping-in of Republicans but what I really see is a coalition of all those Republicans as well as fiscally conservative Democrats taking charge of the agenda. And the variable that's really different this time is the voting public. The voting public has developed such an impressive understanding of how this economy works, based I think, on the rise over the past decade or so of so many Americans with their hands in small businesses. Whether they've succeeded or failed, I see so many more people in this country who understand why too much national debt, too much deficit, and too much red tape has had a chilling effect on their desire to be their own masters, and therefore on the overall economy.
I also think the current performance of Keynsian principles that liberals have been embracing for so many years -- well it's about to be the final nail in that coffin. The unemployment report yesterday was crushing for liberals....that has a lot to do with why I'm making the predictions I am.
Oh, and watch Paul Ryan from Wisconsin really closely if Republicans do sweep in November. He's going to be waiting in the wings with a budget that will start to slash entitlements I believe. If he does, and if all those fiscally conservative Reps and Dems follow, it will be a watershed event.
retdetsgt
10-09-10, 09:29 AM
I'm headed out the door so I'll respond more later. But just on the healthcare issue, as I recall about 24% of Americans are against it because they don't think it went far enough. Another fair percentage is happy with it and more want some sort of healthcare reform, but want something more simple and not going so far. I don't think some sort of government health care regulation will ever go away.
But again, as long as Obama is in office, he will veto anything that tries to change what he considers his legacy. The best thing that can happen in a logjam when nothing gets done.
But no way can a veto proof Congress happen in the foreseeable future.
I'm headed out the door so I'll respond more later. But just on the healthcare issue, as I recall about 24% of Americans are against it because they don't think it went far enough. Another fair percentage is happy with it and more want some sort of healthcare reform, but want something more simple and not going so far. I don't think some sort of government health care regulation will ever go away.
But again, as long as Obama is in office, he will veto anything that tries to change what he considers his legacy. The best thing that can happen in a logjam when nothing gets done.
But no way can a veto proof Congress happen in the foreseeable future.
Your analysis is good, RDS, but I see other variables that are new....I'll explain when you get back....and I also sense a groundswell like i've never sensed before....ttyl
Oh, and I've been seeing very different polls on healthcare for a long time now....
The best thing that can happen in a logjam when nothing gets done.
Btw, this is MUSIC to the ears of those of us in the business community. It would be better if politicians were smart enough about economics and business to actually come up with good legislation, but the next best alternative is for them to be so logjammed they can't get do any damage. You're right about Obama not vetoing but Congress has to fund it, and that they can stop. Let me tell ya, I'm so bullish right now, there's a bunch of stock it's time to invest in cause after November, there's gonna be a ton of optimism in the air, regardless of the actual seats won. The public is for the first time in our history not looking at the candy politicians hand out as a good thing.....they know the sum of all that candy hurts all of us. That's a new variable for example. The voting public is also ready for the bad tasting medicine - for the first time in our history.
On another subject, did you see that General Jones stepped down as National Security Advisor? This Admin is in a downward spiral.
retdetsgt
10-09-10, 11:39 AM
On another subject, did you see that General Jones stepped down as National Security Advisor? This Admin is in a downward spiral.
Yeah, I never thought a military person would be a good fit there. But I don't think even his staff believes much in the prospect of a second term.
The other thing on the primary subject when it comes to entitlements is that they are easy to give and hard to take away.
It still pisses me off that about 47% of households pay no federal income tax and EIC has become the new welfare. But take that away and you make nearly 47% of American households mad.
Yeah, I never thought a military person would be a good fit there. But I don't think even his staff believes much in the prospect of a second term.
The other thing on the primary subject when it comes to entitlements is that they are easy to give and hard to take away.
It still pisses me off that about 47% of households pay no federal income tax and EIC has become the new welfare. But take that away and you make nearly 47% of American households mad.
Totally agree with everything you said, RDS. I believe all the planets have aligned just right though for entitlements and pork to finally be put on the table. Off to do chores....later, alligator....
retdetsgt
10-09-10, 01:21 PM
Totally agree with everything you said, RDS. I believe all the planets have aligned just right though for entitlements and pork to finally be put on the table. Off to do chores....later, alligator....
I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think so. They may go on the table, but it would be political suicide to take away very much at all, especially right now.
I just can't see how we can tackle the deficit by cutting spending alone. Somebody is going to have to pay the credit card bill the government has been running up for decades. But we've all gotten too use to the Bush tax cuts.
Trip, yes, the House is likely to flip, but what will happen in Senate is far less certain. Rs would need to win 10 Senate seats. That could happen in November but it's not a given at this point. Even if it does happen and both chambers switch to GOP control, as RDS pointed out, there's a Democratic President in office who can veto legislation; plus, the majority leadership will still need 60 votes in the Senate to pass anything the least bit controversial through that chamber. A somewhat more likely scenario is divided government, which means that lawmakers on both sides of the aisle will have to work together to get anything done (or else nothing will get done).
retdetsgt
10-09-10, 02:39 PM
Oh, and I've been seeing very different polls on healthcare for a long time now....
Post them if you can. The ones I just googled didn't show a groundswell of support for repeal. The difference between liking and not liking was around 6% or so. If fact, the later polls I saw seem to indicate a small movement towards wanting to keep it.
I think they would be better off at amending the current law than trying to dump it entirely. It's such a nightmare as written, I suspect they would get much more support for that.
retdetsgt
10-09-10, 02:50 PM
Trip, yes, the House is likely to flip, but what will happen in Senate is far less certain.
Yep, the entire House is always up for grabs every two years, but only a third of the Senate. And about half of those running are already Republican. And in Alaska, with Murkowski going for a write-in, she'll be a spoiler that takes votes from Miller. I suspect the Senate will end up being deadlocked, which isn't bad, but it will prevent any change at all coming out of it.
Spoilers aren't always bad, Nader kept Gore from being President. We can be grateful for that, but I bet Murkowski turns that seat Democrat by default.
I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think so. They may go on the table, but it would be political suicide to take away very much at all, especially right now.
I just can't see how we can tackle the deficit by cutting spending alone. Somebody is going to have to pay the credit card bill the government has been running up for decades. But we've all gotten too use to the Bush tax cuts.
Again your concerns are really valid, RDS. But what would be political suicide is to advertise you're going to do it before the election. After the election, I not only see certain Republicans willing to make those politically suicidal choices, but I see a new groundswell of support from the public for people willing to make those politically suicidal choices. And if all this happens, EVERYthing is going to be on the table. I personally believe we need the Bush tax cuts, but I can see everything open for negotiation. Even if we don't get a veto-proof majority, I already feel certain about the momentum I'm already sensing that whatever happens in November will be enough to "unstick" the business community, large and small. Presently the business community, and therefore the economy, is crippled by uncertainty. That word probably doesn't resonate with folks who dont' make these day in and day out business decisions, but it is the biggest reason this economy continues to get worse. Everyone is afraid to make long term investment in human or other capital because of all this burdensome sh** Obama is piling on or signaling he will pile on the people who create jobs in this country. Multiply that dynamic times millions of players. So anyway, the money sits instead of being invested in jobs.
If the signal is sent to the markets and businesses that Cap and Trade and other things Obama is planning won't come to fruition, and that healthcare legislation will be repealed, and then add on top of that the fact that I think some of these Republicans will take the lead in proposals that will force everyone to start cutting entitlements, the markets will take off, businesses will start to spend that money on jobs and all these forces will build on each other in a positive way for the economy. There are some who would do that just because it's the right thing to do regardless of whether they get re-elected, but it would unloosen the economy in a way that they'd be seen as having provided tough leadership and be rewarded anyway. That's the calculus I'd make if I were a Congressman, so either way is an upside. This can all happen even with less ambitious Republican gains, but I predict we're all going to be surprised just how big the changes are gonna be.
With regard to healthcare legislation, no one (that's serious) thinks we should have no reform at all. But in everything I've been monitoring since that was passed, my sense is that a solid 52-56% have been consistently really against the current legislation. And have you been seeing how in the last week dozens and dozens of companies (including McDonald's.... who is backpedaling because of WH pressure... but it shows the thinking) have been petitioning the White House for waivers to the healtcare legislation? Wait till that starts to really hit the general public. There are more and more people reporting their healtcare costs have gone up. It has not bent the cost curve. It has not become more popular the more people read about it (as Obama claimed it would) - and most Democrats are running from it in the elections. My list goes on. My apologies for not having the data....I don't ever get it off the internet....it's from having read lots and lots of different data for the past 4 months from lots of sources and that's where I get the avg from. I see NO polls that show it's popular with a majority. I definitely agree with ya, RDS, that we won't go to having NO reform; but I think it will be the opportunity to scrap the current idiotic plan and come up with a better one that will actually bend the cost curve. That would include things like opening it up to interstate competition (some states only have one heathcare provider...of course that kind of monopoly breeds higher prices), reforming tort reform, etc....capitalist answers to cutting waste instead of "the other type" answer.
At least this is all what my gut is telling me :)
Oh, and I meant to mention all this can be accomplished....spurring on the economy....without any legislation being passed. But if the economy takes off as a result, I'd see a huge mandate for the next step.
retdetsgt
10-09-10, 07:00 PM
Republican politicians are just as concerned about their own selves and political futures as Democrats. They have different ideas about what's good for America, but when it comes their own self interest, I've never seen Republicans hold any high moral ground.
And a good portion of that 50-52% that don't like this healthcare legislation don't like because it doesn't go far enough for them. They want stronger measures. The legislation sucks, but it sucks for different reasons for different people. That doesn't mean government healthcare will go away by any stretch.
Hopefully, you're right in that the logjam will release money into the economy, but w/o a super majority Obama will veto everything sent to him.
We'll see.
Republican politicians are just as concerned about their own selves and political futures as Democrats. They have different ideas about what's good for America, but when it comes their own self interest, I've never seen Republicans hold any high moral ground. We'll see.
This is exactly it. I'm sure some politicians serve because they believe their ideology. Most serve because they believe they themselves are what's best. They are salesmen that are selling themselves and they will morph their views into whatever sells them. The U.S. is too stable politically to really see it (except people like Arlen Specter, TEA party stuff a little bit too), but watching politicians in countries after the cold war pretty much validated what professional politiicians really are. One day, pounding their fist communists, next day they never even heard of it and they are all free market capitalists. For another example, look at John McCain and his new views on immigration.
For all their rhetoric, I never believe the feds will ever cede power back once they grab it. Republicans may tweek healthcare and change some of the regulations but they will never give the power back to the states unless the courts force them.
retdetsgt
10-09-10, 08:05 PM
For all their rhetoric, I never believe the feds will ever cede power back once they grab it. Republicans may tweek healthcare and change some of the regulations but they will never give the power back to the states unless the courts force them.
Shortest list in the world:
Entitlements Given By The Government And Then Taken Away
Welfare was a disaster for over 30 years before it was even tweaked some. Once the government gives something, it's nearly impossible to take it away. In fact, although welfare went through some reforms, other forms of it popped up, EIC for example. The requirements for food stamps had dropped to ridiculous levels. You can't take that stuff away without losing a huge block of voters. Shaw's quote in my signature tells it all and always will.
And Murkowski is a class example of selfish politicians. If she really cared about the conservative movement, she'd support Miller, but of course she's pissed because she lost and is willing to dynamite his campaign and probably get a Democrat in that seat. Again, there is no higher moral ground among Republicans when it comes to their own self interest. I can't imagine any risking his or her seat to "do the right thing". People like that are called former incumbents.
Republican politicians are just as concerned about their own selves and political futures as Democrats. They have different ideas about what's good for America, but when it comes their own self interest, I've never seen Republicans hold any high moral ground.
And a good portion of that 50-52% that don't like this healthcare legislation don't like because it doesn't go far enough for them. They want stronger measures. The legislation sucks, but it sucks for different reasons for different people. That doesn't mean government healthcare will go away by any stretch.
Hopefully, you're right in that the logjam will release money into the economy, but w/o a super majority Obama will veto everything sent to him.
We'll see.
You're right, RDS, most people act in their own self-interest. Your cynicism is well founded, lol. But over the years I've seen a few politicians in both parties do the right thing over their own short term self-interest. Yep, it's not a majority of people, I'm talking about a few key people. For example, if you read some of what Paul Ryan has written about what needs to be done, he's already written some things that could be considered suicidal. He's respected by both sides of the aisle for not only having a handle on the complexities of the budget, but willingness to talk about unpopular solutions.
On healthcare, I keep saying it's not going away altogether; it needs to be reformed. I believe this particular version will go away.
This is exactly it. I'm sure some politicians serve because they believe their ideology. Most serve because they believe they themselves are what's best. They are salesmen that are selling themselves and they will morph their views into whatever sells them. The U.S. is too stable politically to really see it (except people like Arlen Specter, TEA party stuff a little bit too), but watching politicians in countries after the cold war pretty much validated what professional politiicians really are. One day, pounding their fist communists, next day they never even heard of it and they are all free market capitalists. For another example, look at John McCain and his new views on immigration.
For all their rhetoric, I never believe the feds will ever cede power back once they grab it. Republicans may tweek healthcare and change some of the regulations but they will never give the power back to the states unless the courts force them.
Shortest list in the world:
Entitlements Given By The Government And Then Taken Away
Welfare was a disaster for over 30 years before it was even tweaked some. Once the government gives something, it's nearly impossible to take it away. In fact, although welfare went through some reforms, other forms of it popped up, EIC for example. The requirements for food stamps had dropped to ridiculous levels. You can't take that stuff away without losing a huge block of voters. Shaw's quote in my signature tells it all and always will.
And Murkowski is a class example of selfish politicians. If she really cared about the conservative movement, she'd support Miller, but of course she's pissed because she lost and is willing to dynamite his campaign and probably get a Democrat in that seat. Again, there is no higher moral ground among Republicans when it comes to their own self interest. I can't imagine any risking his or her seat to "do the right thing". People like that are called former incumbents.
RDS and Mike, your cynicism is very, very, very well-founded. And I agree the trend line has always been up. But we're either going to change that trend line voluntarily or it will be forced on us. One way or other, the trend line can't continue. :)
They are salesmen that are selling themselves and they will morph their views into whatever sells them.
There's a Congressman in my area by the name of Frank Wolf who's been in office a long time. He defies that statement all the time. Known for being a really straight shooter.
There's a Congressman in my area by the name of Frank Wolf who's been in office a long time. He defies that statement all the time. Known for being a really straight shooter.
Rep. Wolf has a safe seat, and political campaigns and candidates tend not to get nasty in safe districts. Still, though, I agree that he is one of the more distinguished members.
retdetsgt
10-09-10, 08:47 PM
There's a Congressman in my area by the name of Frank Wolf who's been in office a long time. He defies that statement all the time. Known for being a really straight shooter.
We have a senator like that, Ron Wyden. Unfortunately, he's a Democrat. I've dealt with him on a number of issues when I was working and he's about as trustworthy as they come. He's also always willing to work with Republicans.
retdetsgt
10-09-10, 08:48 PM
On healthcare, I keep saying it's not going away altogether; it needs to be reformed. I believe this particular version will go away.
I hope so, but I don't think it will happen in the next session of Congress though.
Yep, the entire House is always up for grabs every two years, but only a third of the Senate. And about half of those running are already Republican. And in Alaska, with Murkowski going for a write-in, she'll be a spoiler that takes votes from Miller. I suspect the Senate will end up being deadlocked, which isn't bad, but it will prevent any change at all coming out of it.
Spoilers aren't always bad, Nader kept Gore from being President. We can be grateful for that, but I bet Murkowski turns that seat Democrat by default.
You make many good points, but I don't believe that Murkowski will be a spoiler. I predict that Alaska will elect either Murkowski or the Republican. The Democrat candidate is trailing badly there, polls suggest.
Poll: Murkowski and Miller Nearly Tied in Alaska; Dems Pulling Away in California - TIME (http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,2022434,00.html)
Rep. Wolf has a safe seat, and political campaigns and candidates tend not to get nasty in safe districts. Still, though, I agree that he is one of the more distinguished members.
Wolf has gone through a number of challenges to his seat in recent years, mostly from other Republicans. He almost lost it about six years ago or so....actually can't remember exactly when..... but someone had mounted such a tough challenge at one point, I was afraid Wolf was going to be thrown out. I have actually had a few "heated" debates with Wolf myself in some local business roundtables about certain subjects, so I don't agree with him on a number of issues, but he has so much integrity that I can't help but be in awe of him.
Wolf has gone through a number of challenges to his seat in recent years, mostly from other Republicans. He almost lost it about six years ago or so....actually can't remember exactly when..... but someone had mounted such a tough challenge at one point, I was afraid Wolf was going to be thrown out. I have actually had a few "heated" debates with Wolf myself in some local business roundtables about certain subjects, so I don't agree with him on a number of issues, but he has so much integrity that I can't help but be in awe of him.
Most recently in 2008, when Wolf defeated Republican primary challenger Vern McKinley with a whopping 92% of the vote. You think that suggests he's not in a safe seat?
ETA: You are right though, that his district has changed significantly, due to redistricting, since he was first elected. But I'd say he's still pretty safe.
retdetsgt
10-09-10, 09:09 PM
Wyden is up for reelection this year and he's had the first reasonable challenger in years, but I can't see him losing. He's popular and has shown himself to be a decent guy even though he's liberal. We lost our Republican Senator, Gordon Smith last election. Too bad, he was a moderate Republican, but he suffered the backlash. The guy that beat him is a far left winger, a real shame.
We have a senator like that, Ron Wyden. Unfortunately, he's a Democrat. I've dealt with him on a number of issues when I was working and he's about as trustworthy as they come. He's also always willing to work with Republicans.
There are a number of Republicans and Democrats I've respected like that over the years. People who could be trusted behind the scenes to do exactly what they committed to doing. In fact Chuck Robb is one of those Democrats I would put in that category (and that's regardless of the "scandals" that sunk his political career). In the 90s I had been active in VA Republican politics and went to our nominating convention where I had to swear to back whoever the Convention chose, but when they chose Olly North, I voted for Robb in the election. As you can see, RDS, I was a rebel even in political circles, and today I consider myself a complete independent, beholden to no one.
Most recently in 2008, when Wolf defeated Republican primary challenger Vern McKinley with a whopping 92% of the vote. You think that suggests he's not in a safe seat?
ETA: You are right though, that his district has changed significantly, due to redistricting, since he was first elected. But I'd say he's still pretty safe.
That was a more recent challenge....I'm talking about one before that...I just can't remember when....I think it was very early in the millenium, maybe 2002.....but the past decade (or two) all kinda blends together for me. It's called old age :)
I hope so, but I don't think it will happen in the next session of Congress though.
You might be right about the timing on that :)
That was a more recent challenge....I'm talking about one before that...I just can't remember when....I think it was very early in the millenium, maybe 2002.....but the past decade (or two) all kinda blends together for me. It's called old age :)
Ok.
retdetsgt
10-09-10, 09:48 PM
Not all the problems were caused by Obamacare. This article came out earlier in the week about problems with medicare caused by the 2008 Congress and signed by Bush.
Insurance companies exiting Medicare disrupt thousands of Oregon seniors | OregonLive.com (http://www.oregonlive.com/news/index.ssf/2010/10/post_115.html)
Not all the problems were caused by Obamacare. This article came out earlier in the week about problems with medicare caused by the 2008 Congress and signed by Bush.
Insurance companies exiting Medicare disrupt thousands of Oregon seniors | OregonLive.com (http://www.oregonlive.com/news/index.ssf/2010/10/post_115.html)
Oh hey, there's plenty of blame to go around. Pretty much no one is exempt from at least some portion of blame.
retdetsgt
10-09-10, 10:34 PM
Oh hey, there's plenty of blame to go around. Pretty much no one is exempt from at least some portion of blame.
My point was that even though Democrats are the worst, I don't see Republicans as knights on white horses coming to the rescue of anyone.
Although I certainly would like to see the things in your opening post happen, I just don't see it. I think things will continue to get worse, just at a slower rate and perhaps in different areas. I don't see any Reagans in the foreseeable future who are willing to at least try to cut down government to any appreciable extent.
I do really hope you are correct that a Democratic loss of Congress will cause big business to loosen the purse strings and start moving. You're absolutely correct that everyone (including consumers) are in a wait and see mode. Greenspan was right when he said recently that's it's fear that keeping the economy stalled.
My point was that even though Democrats are the worst, I don't see Republicans as knights on white horses coming to the rescue of anyone.
Although I certainly would like to see the things in your opening post happen, I just don't see it. I think things will continue to get worse, just at a slower rate and perhaps in different areas. I don't see any Reagans in the foreseeable future who are willing to at least try to cut down government to any appreciable extent.
I do really hope you are correct that a Democratic loss of Congress will cause big business to loosen the purse strings and start moving. You're absolutely correct that everyone (including consumers) are in a wait and see mode. Greenspan was right when he said recently that's it's fear that keeping the economy stalled.
I think they won't continue to get worse. I believe we'll get the course correction in a few weeks. I mean the odds are in favor of your outlook, but it just happens to be the way I read the tea leaves. :)
cjcrew022000
10-31-10, 11:49 AM
If anyone lives in Michigan's 15th, please get rid of John Dingell!!! He's been in office almost as long as the Queen Elizabeth II. Plus, Rob Steele looks like a great candidate.
You make many good points, but I don't believe that Murkowski will be a spoiler. I predict that Alaska will elect either Murkowski or the Republican. The Democrat candidate is trailing badly there, polls suggest.
Poll: Murkowski and Miller Nearly Tied in Alaska; Dems Pulling Away in California - TIME (http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,2022434,00.html)
Murkowski just won that election: Murkowski becomes 1st write-in senator since '54 - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_alaska_senate)
Cat_Doc
11-17-10, 09:01 PM
I hope I stimulated the economy today when I sunk more money into tin-foil stock!
Sorry, Chief, you're always one step ahead of me.....I don't get it :) You know you have to explain things to me, lol.
Cat_Doc
11-18-10, 03:19 PM
Sorry, Chief, you're always one step ahead of me.....I don't get it :) You know you have to explain things to me, lol.
Someone shook the nut tree again and one of them fell into RP.
I had no idea he would take Sen. Murkowski's reelection so hard. LOL.
(Well, there's still a possibility of a legal challenge from Miller.)
Someone shook the nut tree again and one of them fell into RP.
I resemble that remark. :)
Btw, the amount of radiation is only a fraction of what ya get from the actual flight. Hello.
Someone shook the nut tree again and one of them fell into RP.
I resemble that remark. :)
Btw, the amount of radiation is only a fraction of what ya get from the actual flight. Hello.
Trip, I don't think it was aimed at you. (Miller is 10,000 votes behind, the AP reported yesterday, which is why I suspect that Murkowski did in fact win the election. But I can wear a tin foil hat if it will make him feel better about that fact.)
:conehead:
Roger that. Well, we can both wear tin foil hats, I don't mind :) You shoulda seen what I wore for a Halloween party. It involved silver tights and silver high heels....
Yes, you're awfully good natured Trip. :yesnod:
Never have I seen you make a personal attack. Good for you. :wink:
I haven't? You mean my inside voice hasn't slipped out all these months, lol.....I was thinking with my inside voice when I slipped and mentioned silver tights for example :)
Blackgoat06
11-19-10, 01:02 AM
Someone shook the nut tree again and one of them fell into RP.
It's almost suprising that the government allows tinfoil to be sold since it is so detrimental to their efforts.
Yea, but there are so many kinky things you can do with tin-foil, G. Whip cream is passe'
Safety Steve
11-19-10, 08:34 AM
Yea, but there are so many kinky things you can do with tin-foil, G. Whip cream is passe'
Like what? :toetap05:
Be Safe.
There is an overwhelming lack of imagination by people in your profession, Sir. :)
Safety Steve
11-19-10, 08:56 AM
There is an overwhelming lack of imagination by people in your profession, Sir. :)
Nothing but the facts please, nothing but the facts! :biggrinjester:
Be Safe.
Curt581
11-19-10, 08:58 AM
There is an overwhelming lack of imagination by people in your profession, Sir. :)
I beg to differ.
You should see how much imagination I have with a pair of Mickey Mouse ears, a quart of Wesson oil and a rubber spatula.
Nothing but the facts please, nothing but the facts! :biggrinjester:
Be Safe.
Oh, how I miss Dragnet! Loved those cops!
I beg to differ.
You should see how much imagination I have with a pair of Mickey Mouse ears, a quart of Wesson oil and a rubber spatula.
The others I get, but Mickey Mouse ears, lol? Ok, ok, ok, you win.....
Let me redo my statement, Stevie. There is an overwhelming lack of imagination in your profession, Sir, except for Curt, and probably Normie.
Safety Steve
11-19-10, 09:06 AM
I'm just trying to see if you could add a new one to my imagination!
Be Safe.
I'm a capitalist. I do everything for a price.
Safety Steve
11-19-10, 12:32 PM
I'm a capitalist. I do everything for a price.
I have no money, look what profession I am in. What about bartering? :thumbsup:
Be Safe.
You should see how much imagination I have with a pair of Mickey Mouse ears, a quart of Wesson oil and a rubber spatula.
that's about as much 'imagination' as I can take today.
It's almost suprising that the government allows tinfoil to be sold since it is so detrimental to their efforts.
LOL.
Someone shook the nut tree again and one of them fell into RP.
Do I get to choose what kind of nut I am -- say, a cashew or a pistachio?
Cat_Doc
11-23-10, 05:40 PM
Someone shook the nut tree again and one of them fell into RP.
I resemble that remark. :)
Btw, the amount of radiation is only a fraction of what ya get from the actual flight. Hello.
99 is correct, Trip. My comment was NOT directed at you. There was a looney that dropped in with rubbish about mind control and video surveillance who has been subsequently banned for foolishness and inability to respond to admonishments.
99 is correct, Trip. My comment was NOT directed at you. There was a looney that dropped in with rubbish about mind control and video surveillance who has been subsequently banned for foolishness and inability to respond to admonishments.
Roger that, Chief :)
Blackgoat06
11-23-10, 08:35 PM
99 is correct, Trip. My comment was NOT directed at you. There was a looney that dropped in with rubbish about mind control and video surveillance who has been subsequently banned for foolishness and inability to respond to admonishments.
You mods are no fun . I love when crazy people come along.
I thought for sure it was me he meant, and yes I know it's just the Internet, but I was still miffed. LOL.
I thought for sure it was me he meant, and yes I know it's just the Internet, but I was still miffed. LOL.
Chief musta loved we were fightin over him, 99. Just think of it like rescuing a puppy. :biggrinjester:
Chief, please don't take offense at my post, and have a blessed Thanksgiving everyone.