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A federal judge on Wednesday blocked some of the toughest provisions in the Arizona immigration law, putting on hold the state's attempt to have local police enforce federal immigration policy.

Though the rest of the law is still set to go into effect Thursday, the partial injunction on SB 1070 means Arizona, for the time being, will not be able to require police officers to determine the immigration status of anyone they stop or arrest.

U.S. District Judge Susan Bolton also struck down the section of law that makes it a crime for someone not to carry immigration registration papers and the provision that makes it a crime for an illegal immigrant to seek or perform work.

Click here to read the ruling.

In all, Bolton struck down four sections of the law, the ones that opponents called the most controversial. Bolton said she was putting those sections on hold until the courts resolve the issues.

The ruling said the Obama administration, which sought the injunction, is likely to "succeed on the merits" in showing the above provisions are preempted by federal law.


FOXNews.com - Federal Judge Blocks Portions of Arizona Illegal Immigration Law (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/07/28/federal-judge-rules-arizona-immigration-law-dispute/)


WTF IS GOING ON WITH THIS COUNTRY??

I'm really at a loss for words. Can not one state enact some ****ing laws to protect itself and benefit the nation without some liberal hack tossing it out the window? Who the hell do these people think they are?

I hope Arizona says "Up yours" and just does it anyway. This makes me sick.

This is just the beginning and I think there will be a huge backlash against the current administration and their supporters over this.

I'm not really any expert on Federal procedure but am I missing something here?


Bolton said she was putting those sections on hold until the courts resolve the issues.

The courts? Well what is she? Isn't that what she was supposed to be doing?

I'm not really any expert on Federal procedure but am I missing something here?



The courts? Well what is she? Isn't that what she was supposed to be doing?

The request for injunction is not a formal request to have the law thrown out, which is what the law suit is for. The injuction request is basically Obama asking a judge to tell the state not to carry out the law until the law suit is settled.

What gets me about the law is that they are arguing that since it's already a federal law that you can't seek employment as an illegal immigrant, it's considered "handled" in a sense.

wtf, there are federal laws covering nearly everything a state law covers, from homicide on down the line. So I guess by their same logic, we shouldn't enforce other state laws that are covered by federal law. Guess I should go take a vacation then.

Thanks for closing the other thread, Chief :) So are you expecting things to get even crazier down there in the coming days??? I was hearing they're expecting lots of protestors from both sides. Is your state about to become a war zone....I mean even moreso than it already is? Wanna hear something funny? I was hearing in the news this morning that Elton John chastized people for boycotting Arizona...I was like WHAT, LOL?

Thanks for closing the other thread, Chief :) So are you expecting things to get even crazier down there in the coming days??? I was hearing they're expecting lots of protestors from both sides. Is your state about to become a war zone....I mean even moreso than it already is? Wanna hear something funny? I was hearing in the news this morning that Elton John chastized people for boycotting Arizona...I was like WHAT, LOL?

I have no way of knowing how any protests will go now that the criminals got their way, at least on a portion of the law. Those supporting SB1070 have not indicated or previously displayed any civil disobedience, so I would not expect any problems out of them. In any event, I would expect more problems in the Phoenix metro area than in our jurisdiction, but if they come, we will deal with them.

We have a very well trained and equipped Mobile Field Force who has experience with the Hell’s Angels Prison Run and the strikes in the copper mines. These punks bused in from California will be easy to deal with.

Elton John quote:

"We are all very pleased to be playing in Arizona. I have read that some of the artists won't come here. They are (expletive)wits! Let's face it: I still play in California, and as a gay man I have no legal rights whatsoever. So what's the (expletive) with these people?"

Elton John's choice words for boycotting musicians (http://azstarnet.com/article_f13019c4-9692-11df-a25d-001cc4c002e0.html)

I have no way of knowing how any protests will go now that the criminals got their way, at least on a portion of the law. Those supporting SB1070 have not indicated or previously displayed any civil disobedience, so I would not expect any problems out of them. In any event, I would expect more problems in the Phoenix metro area than in our jurisdiction, but if they come, we will deal with them.

We have a very well trained and equipped Mobile Field Force who has experience with the Hell’s Angels Prison Run and the strikes in the copper mines. These punks bused in from California will be easy to deal with.

Elton John quote:

"We are all very pleased to be playing in Arizona. I have read that some of the artists won't come here. They are (expletive)wits! Let's face it: I still play in California, and as a gay man I have no legal rights whatsoever. So what's the (expletive) with these people?"

Elton John's choice words for boycotting musicians (http://azstarnet.com/article_f13019c4-9692-11df-a25d-001cc4c002e0.html)

Well I'm glad we have Arizona's, no America's finest, at the ready for us, Chief, lol :) I know you're close to it, but as someone far away in DC who monitors the heartbeat of things by the tempo in the press, it feels like it's going to get even more "interesting."

And OMG those are such great quotes from Elton baby!!! I didn't hear those in the news so glad you sent....those are FANTASTIC.....I didn't know he had it in him to flip the finger at artists on the left.....so funny, lol. Heck, I may have to run out this evening and buy some Elton CDs just for the hell of it. I love using economic power to send messages :) Heck, the very first time I heard about the Arizona boycott, I wanted to take my next vacation there...only problem is my boss keeps canceling my vacations....won't see one for sometime, lol. But I woulda!!

Stay safe, sir!

Well I'm glad we have Arizona's, no America's finest, at the ready for us, Chief, lol :)
I have faith in all American law enforcement, but thanks for the suck up. LOL



I know you're close to it, but as someone far away in DC who monitors the heartbeat of things by the tempo in the press, it feels like it's going to get even more "interesting."

I bet the liberal main stream media is doing little happy dances and spilling thier friggen foo-foo lattes. I'll sit back and wait for this thing to work its way through the courts because Arizona will continue the fight.


Stay safe, sir!

Thanks. I try my best to make it home vertical with the same amount of holes in my body that I reported with.

Me suck up? Hahahaha. You don't know me very well. Try asking every boss I've ever had and they'd tell you there is no one more annoyingly honest than moi. Not kidding :) I know you're modest and can't take compliments...I know, I'm the same way. Now I will play at sucking up....like I did with Curt and Samuel, but I will make it SOO obvious I'm sucking up, that it's obvious (ooops, can't finish this thought...I'm still in negotiations with them and don't want to show my hand, lol....)

As for the press....I can hardly wait to get home and flip on Fox. I also tend to flip to CNN and back all the time....will be interesting to see the coverage, LOL.

As for staying vertical with the same amount of holes, with all due respect, Chief, WORK HARDER AT IT! It's a frickin war zone down there. Stay safe :)

spilling thier friggen foo-foo lattes.

Btw, I like friggen foo-foo lattes. :) But only with fake coffee as my co-workers will not allow me to have real coffee.

Btw, I like friggen foo-foo lattes. :)

>>> Coffee, just plain hot black coffee for this old timer.


But only with fake coffee as my co-workers will not allow me to have real coffee.

I think I fully understanding the reasoning. LOL

Thanks. I try my best to make it home vertical with the same amount of holes in my body that I reported with.

Before it starts, pull out your ADL, look at the DOB and count the number of years between then and now. Then delegate to the young bucks who are blowing fire from their nose.....:yesnod:

Yep. If I would have done that not too long ago I wouldn't have had to suffer that broken finger.

I think I fully understanding the reasoning. LOL

I always have a lot of energy for some reason. With caffeine, I ping off the walls :) But back to the topic of the thread....I guess I'm still really confused about how the judge can strike down (injunction) a state law that reads almost word-for-word like the federal law. That is such a mind-f**k from a logic standpoint.

And now that the Administration says they don't want the state doing their job, wonder if it's too much to ask if they could please get off their a**es and do it now!! Even though I'm not affected personally down there (though the implication of people getting to just ignore the law wholesale affects all of us), I look at this border problem from the standpoint of terrorists easily sauntering in. Wait till an incident happens and watch how fast people pull their heads out of the sand. Ok, off my soapbox now :)

Before it starts, pull out your ADL, look at the DOB and count the number of years between then and now. Then delegate to the young bucks who are blowing fire from their nose.....:yesnod:

So funny!! ROFL. Yea, Chief, like he said :)

Yep. If I would have done that not too long ago I wouldn't have had to suffer that broken finger.

did you really break a finger, Chief?

Ya know, these judges that make these decisions are not the ones that have to live in the neighborhoods or arrest the illegal aliens that have raped, molested, kidnapped, robbed, murdered or stole from people. I also highly doubt that they have to shop in the neighborhoods where dirty filthy baby diapers litter the parking lots of the walmart or get into traffic collisions with unlicensed drunk drivers. Then again, she was a Clinton appointee so that does not surprise me

By the way, I am still not completely used to RP's newer format. How do I check my rep?

Click on "settings" at the top

What pisses me off is the federal judge stopped the state from requiring all immigrants to carry their immigration documents at all times. I guess the judge forgot that they are already required to carry them at all times in every state.

8 USC 1304 (e) Personal possession of registration or receipt card; penalties Every alien, eighteen years of age and over, shall at all times carry with him and have in his personal possession any certificate of alien registration or alien registration receipt card issued to him pursuant to subsection (d) of this section. Any alien who fails to comply with the provisions of this subsection shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and shall upon conviction for each offense be fined not to exceed $100 or be imprisoned not more than thirty days, or both.

obama hates America. It is as simple as that.

Ok so lemme just get this straight...

Illegals don't have to carry their supposed "immigration documents", they can drive around with no license, and can legally seek work.

However: It is illegal for me to employ an illegal immigrant, I must identify myself if stopped by police, and I'm required to carry license, registration, and proof of insurance when I'm out driving around.

DOES THIS MAKE ANY FRIGGIN' SENSE AT ALL?

The request for injunction is not a formal request to have the law thrown out, which is what the law suit is for. The injuction request is basically Obama asking a judge to tell the state not to carry out the law until the law suit is settled.

What gets me about the law is that they are arguing that since it's already a federal law that you can't seek employment as an illegal immigrant, it's considered "handled" in a sense.

wtf, there are federal laws covering nearly everything a state law covers, from homicide on down the line. So I guess by their same logic, we shouldn't enforce other state laws that are covered by federal law. Guess I should go take a vacation then.

Ctryboy, I like how your brain works, LOL...

Ok so lemme just get this straight...

Illegals don't have to carry their supposed "immigration documents", they can drive around with no license, and can legally seek work.

FALSE. If stopped while driving a vehicle, they are required to provide a driver's license, registration and insurance, just like anybody else. No license, no drive. The car gets towed. That happens if you're legal, illegal, whatever. Nobody is "allowing" unlicensed driving, that's just nonsense.

When it comes to unlicensed, suspended or revoked drivers of ANY background, I've found the worst thing we can do about it is impound the car.. because now, they're on foot.


However: It is illegal for me to employ an illegal immigrant, I must identify myself if stopped by police, and I'm required to carry license, registration, and proof of insurance when I'm out driving around.

DOES THIS MAKE ANY FRIGGIN' SENSE AT ALL?

Yes. You're a law-abiding citizen. Those are the things driving legally require. The cops don't allow people to drive without a license, just because they don't speak English or are illegal immigrants.

By the same token, if you're stopped while on foot, you're not required to produce identification. Under some circumstances, you may be required to verbally identify yourself, and you may be subject to further ID processes if you're placed under arrest.

You're mixing up circumstances about being "stopped". Stopped while walking and stopped while driving have different rules. That's because driving motor vehicle is a privilege, while just walking is a right.

I do have to admit that the part about having to prove citizenship when stopped by the police is a little scary to me. That's getting close to requiring a national ID card to be carried all the time.

I'm all for having to prove citizenship to get a driver's license, job, etc. When I renewed my DL last year, I had to bring in my birth certificate (and no, it wasn't on parchment) and I had no problem with that. I wouldn't mind it if I applied for a job (God forbid!). But if some Hispanic guy can be checked for citizenship when he's having normal contact with the police, they can do it to me too.

Carrying ID with you is always a good idea, but it sticks in my craw just a bit if the government says I have to.

I do have to admit that the part about having to prove citizenship when stopped by the police is a little scary to me. That's getting close to requiring a national ID card to be carried all the time.

I'm all for having to prove citizenship to get a driver's license, job, etc. When I renewed my DL last year, I had to bring in my birth certificate (and no, it wasn't on parchment) and I had no problem with that. I wouldn't mind it if I applied for a job (God forbid!). But if some Hispanic guy can be checked for citizenship when he's having normal contact with the police, they can do it to me too.

Carrying ID with you is always a good idea, but it sticks in my craw just a bit if the government says I have to.

You know I luv ya, RDS...and we agree on so many things....but try living in ANY other country on this planet and try getting away with what we're allowing illegals to do. I would've been in a jail, under a jail, shot by firing squads, etc....and that's just for some misunderstanding. I know we're the world's beacon for liberty, and as an economist, I also understand how complex this issue is....as well as how guilty businesses are for part of this problem.....there are splits among liberals and splits among conservatives.....but this blatant wholesale ignoring of the law should be concern #1. IMHO. And of course my perspective is from having lived or worked in so many other countries of the world....including the Frances and other liberal areas of the world....hell, France wouldn't tolerate this for a minute. And Mexico-of all the places - is one of the worst, the f***ing hypocrites on this topic. You have no idea how scarey it is being abroad and having questions about your papers - but they have a fricken right to protect their own borders, and I support sovereign nations' right to do so. But I do acknowledge the fear of the pendulum swinging too far right. Ok, off my soapbox now......I'll go get my chill pill :chillpill:

I have no problem getting tough on illegals. When they're found, they need to be deported ASAP.

I have a problem with anyone being forced to cough up proof on a whim that they're citizens. Finding illegals isn't a problem and can be done by a lot of other methods. The government has never had a problem locating them, it's just that they don't do anything with them when they're found. They never have.

But what people, especially cops tend to forget is that anything the police can do to someone else, they can do to you too.

There are people living in places like San Antonio, Texas who are third and fourth generation Americans, but barely speak English. That's the culture of a lot of the city. Why should they have to carry proof of citizenship when I don't?

Edited to add:

It's not just liberals. I had problems with INS through every administration, including Reagan and Bush getting them to respond to illegal immigrants. We arrest them all the time and unless it's a felony charge, they're going to be released back into society. It happens everyday. It's frankly a budgetary problem and always has been. Jacking up people on the street isn't going to give ICE more money to send their butts back.

SB 1070 DID NOT require American citizens to carry and provide identification. It simply supplemented federal law that already requires non-citizens, legally in the United States, to carry and provide identification upon demand at all times. Arizona just wanted to make it a state misdemeanor so we could do something with them since the feds won't/can't.

This is one of the misguided and emotional talking points that the protestors and media have been jumping on without reading and digesting the statute, including the President and his Attorney General when they ran their pie holes without having even read the law. (Not accusing you, Brother, of running your pie hole. Just trying to set it straight.)

This is one of the misguided and emotional talking points that the protestors and media have been jumping on without reading and digesting the statute, including the President and his Attorney General when they ran their pie holes without having even read the law. (Not accusing you, Brother, of running your pie hole. Just trying to set it straight.)

All I know is what I read in the papers......:o

One more little thing that an awful lot of people seem to overlook.

We were required, under SB1070, to articulate reasonable suspicion that another civil or criminal code violation had been committed by the person of interest before we could even begin inquiring about legal status. We underwent training for this (strict in my agency with a POST certified instructor required to proctor each session) and it was hammered in that any "profiling" based upon ethnicity would result in discipline up to termination. This was not being taken lightly and it was to be administered fairly and lawfully. We were fully prepared to put our own boot up a deputy’s *** if they were identified as intentionally violating "good faith investigation" on this issue.

The feds and libs will have one believing we (Arizona cops) were wanting to wear jackboots and screaming sieg heil . It couldn't be further from the truth. As a matter of fact, over 200 of our uniformed staff are Hispanic, and “they” would have you think we are racist. BS.!

All I know is what I read in the papers......:o

Jim, I'm not butt hurt at your comments. Hell, I am vehemently against a law would require me to identify myself without it being voluntary, required by the justice system or "contractual" in nature.

I guess I'm just a little cranky this morning after a bad day yesterday. Three Chandler officers shot, one killed, two wounded, a medical airlift chopper went down in Tucson killing all onboard, and then seeing these smug *** liberal bused in from out of state pricks defending law breakers dancing in the streets and taunting lawmen.

Maybe I need to go outside and water the lawn for a couple of hours?

Is Arizona in the 9th Circus? If so, you can kiss off an appeal to them.

Maybe I need to go outside and water the lawn for a couple of hours?

I used to dig holes.... Some days I was like a demented gopher...

I guess I'm just a little cranky this morning after a bad day yesterday. Three Chandler officers shot, one killed, two wounded, a medical airlift chopper went down in Tucson killing all onboard, and then seeing these smug *** liberal bused in from out of state pricks defending law breakers dancing in the streets and taunting lawmen.



WTFO? OMG, Chief. Why the hell didn't we see that in the news? Oh man. So sorry to hear that news :(

Is Arizona in the 9th Circus? If so, you can kiss off an appeal to them.

This will surely go to the Supreme Court...

Is Arizona in the 9th Circus? If so, you can kiss off an appeal to them.

I am fairly certain this thing will go to SCOTUS.

If nothing else, it puts the Obama administration and the Dem's on notice. They will not come out of this unscathed.

There is something inherently wrong with government sanctioning illegality and the majority of US citizens support Arizona's initiative. We'll see what happens in November.

You may remember some of my posts a few years ago in which I mentioned that we (Arizona) understood migrant workers and they got the "wink and nod" because they worked hard, took care of their families and kept a low profile. It has changed, dramatically; to a segment that demands benefits, is behind vicious drug and human smuggling cartels and displays total disregard for social laws and norms in the bailiwick they have illegally entered.

The illegals and those that support their illegality won a small victory, but we will keep marching and doing the job...that's what we are all about.

WTFO? OMG, Chief. Why the hell didn't we see that in the news? Oh man. So sorry to hear that news :(

Officials ID victims killed in Tucson copter crash (http://azstarnet.com/news/local/crime/article_93b991e6-7e25-58d0-912a-4d6a50487e54.html)

I knew Brenda. Did not have the honor of meeting the other two.

I do have to admit that the part about having to prove citizenship when stopped by the police is a little scary to me.

I'm sure there are also good reasons people are fearful of this, which is why this debate is so difficult. Very valid points on boths sides. Leaning too far in either one direction or the other will not be good. Since I'm not wired to be a fence-sitter, I have to admit I lean way toward enforcement, but I do understand the fear within the Hispanic community. We have to hope that LEOs at the individual level will then do their part to protect the innocent.

Officials ID victims killed in Tucson copter crash (http://azstarnet.com/news/local/crime/article_93b991e6-7e25-58d0-912a-4d6a50487e54.html)

I knew Brenda. Did not have the honor of meeting the other two.

Oh man, Chief, you did have a bad day yesterday. I'm very sorry to hear about all this. Lot of negative energy is in the air down there. You LEOs down there are also probably more stressed than you realize. Haven't had a chance to see the news today but something tells me the stress level will go up some more. You should use RP for a good relief valve. Ok to kick the "dog." So kick RDS. Kick Greg. Kick Switch. Kick me. Wait, maybe not Switch. Let us know if you want some help with cookies or care packages.

There is something inherently wrong with government sanctioning illegality and the majority of US citizens support Arizona's initiative. We'll see what happens in November.

We had the same problem here in Oregon when Ashcroft went after the assisted suicide law that the majority of Oregonians passed, twice. Fortunately, he lost.



You may remember some of my posts a few years ago in which I mentioned that we (Arizona) understood migrant workers and they got the "wink and nod" because they worked hard, took care of their families and kept a low profile. It has changed, dramatically; to a segment that demands benefits, is behind vicious drug and human smuggling cartels and displays total disregard for social laws and norms in the bailiwick they have illegally entered.

No disagreement with that from me. I would imagine that at least 90% of the illegal drugs here come from Mexico and is transported by illegals.

My problem and apparent misconception was that old Mexican-American families could be rousted by this law. My bad.

And I well know about liberal mobs. George Bush Sr. didn't call Portland "Little Beirut" for nothing.

I used to dig holes.... Some days I was like a demented gopher...

That was probably the funniest thing I have read in a while on here.

Immigration Reform Debate - Yahoo! News Photos (http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/demonstrator-cries-he-arrested-during-protest-against-Arizona39s-controversial-Senate/photo//100729/ids_photos_ts/r3198916024.jpg//s:/ap/us_arizona_immigration)

I love the photo of the punk crying while being arrested. Sounded like fun and games, didn't it, while you boarded the bus from California and sang camp songs on the way here? He doesn’t look like he’ll mind the pink underwear in Joe’s jail. :thumbsup:

I love the photo of the punk crying while being arrested. Sounded like fun and games, didn't it, while you boarded the bus from California and sang camp songs on the way here? He doesn’t look like he’ll mind the pink underwear in Joe’s jail. :thumbsup:

His face says it all..."Mom, you didn't tell me this was going to happen!"

Four words of advice kid....Man up, reality hurts.

Immigration Reform Debate - Yahoo! News Photos (http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/demonstrator-cries-he-arrested-during-protest-against-Arizona39s-controversial-Senate/photo//100729/ids_photos_ts/r3198916024.jpg//s:/ap/us_arizona_immigration)

I love the photo of the punk crying while being arrested. :thumbsup:

I love the look on the face of the cop, lol. Probably thinking, "no, you're not going to stand here and cry are ya? Oh no, don't tell me you're really gonna cry? Oh, for heaven's sake.....grow some balls........"

The dip****s think they're some kind of Freedom Riders.....:mad2:

Every time, and I mean every time we get any conservative politician coming to Portland, all the unwashed come out of the sewers. They attack motorists, police, people attending the event and cry like babies when we take them to jail.

And of course, the media rarely captures anything but us taking the to jail.

They enjoy Maricopa county jail this time of year.... :yesnod:

Why do you guys wear black in that heat????

I have to admit that I'm with Cat on this one.

I expect that Counterfeiting, as well as several other Federal Offenses will no longer be enforced by local PD's if this law does not ultimately stand.

With Agencies cutting back services of all types, this would be perfect for them to pass those jobs back up to the Feds.

One of the first news sources I look to on the Internet is Drudge. He pretty much keeps it up to date and across a broad spectrum.

With Agencies cutting back services of all types, this would be perfect for them to pass those jobs back up to the Feds.



Gives them more time to investigate us. I see the local socialist here have asked the FBI to investigate my old department again. We keep doing inhumane things like shoot people that point guns and shoot at us. The FBI agreed to do it.

I like Drudge too. The way he titles some links indicate he's not totally impartial, he definitely leans to the right. But he does provide up to date links on important issues.

We keep doing inhumane things like shoot people that point guns and shoot at us.



No way! Do people really point guns and shoot at police. No..... :rolleyes5:

We keep doing inhumane things like shoot people that point guns and shoot at us. The FBI agreed to do it.


Dear God you guys are out of control and must be stopped!

Yup just had another act of violence occur in Nuevo Laredo....and another unconfirmed one again couple hours ago.


Our Govenor recently invited Obama over to inspect the border to see first hand how "safe" the border is. I doubt Obama will show up, but I really wish he would so that he could see first hand exactly how bad it is. And as bad as it is down here I'm sure AZ has it much worse.

I'd also like to point out that my first interdiction stop involved a carload of illegals carrying VERY good fake documents....so good they got past the main BP checkpoint here in my area. Only reason they didn't get away scot free is because the THP is the baddest MoFo's in this state :)

Yup just had another act of violence occur in Nuevo Laredo....and another unconfirmed one again couple hours ago.


Our Govenor recently invited Obama over to inspect the border to see first hand how "safe" the border is. I doubt Obama will show up, but I really wish he would so that he could see first hand exactly how bad it is. And as bad as it is down here I'm sure AZ has it much worse.

I'd also like to point out that my first interdiction stop involved a carload of illegals carrying VERY good fake documents....so good they got past the main BP checkpoint here in my area. Only reason they didn't get away scot free is because the THP is the baddest MoFo's in this state :)

So fricken frustrating, Chevy. Another thing that's driving me crazy is the "spin" people are putting on the stats (remember Chef_Au how I said I like your quote of "lies, damn lies, and statistics"?). From a numbers standpoint, YES, crossings APPEAR to be dropping, crime appears to be dropping, certain numbers are dropping. But OF COURSE when our economy goes into a retraction and has less jobs, illegals are not going to pour over at the extremely high level they're pouring over at, but pour over at a moderately high level. It's still HIGH. It's still unacceptable. It doesn't surprise me to hear that stupid spin on numbers come out of the mouth of certain people - they tend to be mathmatically challenged on a lot of issues. COSTS of things is another example.

Sorry for the delay, but I just came across this:
http://i30.tinypic.com/scba7b.jpg

Damn! I wish they would allow IMG's in this section......:toetap05:

Yeah, I don't get that either. They allow video, but not img's. Must be run by the Federal Government or sumpin'. :)

Yeah, I don't get that either. They allow video, but not img's. Must be run by the Federal Government or sumpin'. :)

I mentioned it in Suggestions/Recommendations and it was ignored.... My inner child hates being ignored....

I mentioned it in Suggestions/Recommendations and it was ignored.... My inner child hates being ignored....

My inner child calls himself John and we have disagreements that we talk out or yell out. Sometimes he wins, Sometimes I win.