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SHH 1313
05-03-10, 08:44 AM
Here's one I will start off with.
Ladie's never park next to a van with no windows or dark tinted windows if you don't have to.
SHH 1313
05-03-10, 08:45 AM
Oops, thought I was in off topic....sorry
Citicop
05-03-10, 08:48 AM
Oops, thought I was in off topic....sorry
Moved it to General Law Enforcement Topics for you...
-Citicop.
retdetsgt
05-03-10, 08:49 AM
A great book I've recommended to every woman in my life is "A Gift of Fear" by Gavin De Becker. Fantastic book on how to listen to your instincts to stay safe.
SHH 1313
05-03-10, 09:58 AM
appreciate that, thanks..
SHH
Quote: RDS
listen to your instincts to stay safe.
YES, and don't think that "oh" that probably won't happen to me. I am always aware of my purse in the supermarket, mall etc but thought my purse is safe in ICU in a small hospital wrong. Always assume your purse is a target for thieves.
retdetsgt
05-03-10, 10:11 AM
YES, and don't think that "oh" that probably won't happen to me. I am always aware of my purse in the supermarket, mall etc but thought my purse is safe in ICU in a small hospital wrong. Always assume your purse is a target for thieves.
What I recommend (and finally convinced my wife to do) is to get a small wallet that will hold only a credit card, your ID and a little money and take that in the store with you in your pocket. Put the purse in the trunk of the car. It's doubtful you will require makeup or any of the 37 other items you have in your purse while your shopping for groceries or visiting someone in the hospital.
We had a serious rash of purse snatches near a major shopping center here years ago. We started a campaign to educate a lot of the older women that they didn't need to carry a 10 lb. purse with them every time they go in a store. Surprising to a lot of us, it took and fewer and fewer women carried purses with them into the mall and the purse snatchers had to find another way to make a living.
retdetsgt
05-03-10, 11:47 AM
Always strike a male attacker in the balls. No matter how big they are it will be effective.
BTW I am referring to the size of both the man and the balls.
Son, you really need to get a girl friend.....
That possibility if rarely, if ever available by the nature of purse snatches....
jmac_52
05-03-10, 04:29 PM
One of my old school teachers years ago said she carried a big purse with her everywhere she went. It didn't contain any money, credit cards or other valuables. Just 3 very large cans of creamed corn. She said they made an excellent weapon.
I didn't know this from other than her telling me. But I sure didn't want to catch her in a bad mood when she had her purse close by.
:)
retdetsgt
05-03-10, 04:42 PM
I didn't know this from other than her telling me. But I sure didn't want to catch her in a bad mood when she had her purse close by.
:)
I had one like that, my 6th grade teacher, Mrs. Aiken. She had been an Olympic high diver when she was young, but was in her late 40's then and "big boned". She could hunt bear with a jar of honey and a switch. I liked her, but when she got mad, the whole building shook!
Pookie44
05-03-10, 08:49 PM
Here's one I will start off with.
Ladie's never park next to a van with no windows or dark tinted windows if you don't have to.
This thread reminds me off a time I was at the mall. I parked far away cause I like to walk lol well anyways as I was walking out to my vehicle I noticed this weird van parked next to my jeep with two guys in the front ( note it was dark out and I don't own a cell). As I'm walking to my jeep I get this overbearing emotion to turn back around. So I went with my gut and went back inside the mall. I walked around for about 30 minutes until I seen a mall officer, I told him about what I was feeling and he gladly walked me to my vehicle. The two guys were still in the van when I left. I'll never know if I was being parinoid due to the fact I watch Forensic files all night long or I was truly in danger. I alway watch around me and if it's dark I park close to the building.
retdetsgt
05-03-10, 09:31 PM
Good job, Pookie!
The premise of the book I mentioned is that we subconsciously learn to read body language of others. Even though you may not have realized it, there was something in the way those guys were standing, talking or something that set off an alarm in your subconscious.
Good cops develop that to an art form. Being able to tell if someone is potentially violent is not as easy as it looks. The guy yelling and screaming may not appear to really be a threat where the person who is quiet, but if you notice his fists are clinched, arms stiff, etc., you better be careful. I can tell when my wife is really pissed by the way her voice octave gets a little deeper than usual. That's when I start choosing my words very carefully....
As my daughters grew up, I always told them to believe their guts when they got an "uh oh" feeling and get out of whatever situation they were in. Both have told me it served them well.
Firestorm
05-03-10, 10:08 PM
When I was about twenty, I never carried a purse really. But when I had to go to a store without a car, I always took my dog with me, and he carried it for me. No one ever bothered me because of that. Now I carry a small wallet like purse, held closely to me any time I think someone is getting too close. They always backed off though when I looked like I was about to hit them. Christmas time is the worst though. Ugh.. What some people won't try.
JoetheGI
05-03-10, 11:36 PM
Don't jog at night alone on isolated routes.
Back in the day I had a job that required me to drive through a wooded business area void of traffic in the evenings after business hours, and I would see a lone lovely lady jogging. No dog, nobody else. Not too smart imo...
Firestorm
05-04-10, 02:19 PM
Some people just don't seem to think about the consequences you know? And they should. You hear stories about women being abducted all the time while they were alone and vulnerable. It's like nobody learns, even at the expense of someone else.
retdetsgt
05-04-10, 03:45 PM
Some people just don't seem to think about the consequences you know? And they should. You hear stories about women being abducted all the time while they were alone and vulnerable. It's like nobody learns, even at the expense of someone else.
There is such a thing as a victim mentality. I noticed over the years that most women I had as rape victims had been the victim of one of more previous crimes.
My department has a "Women's Strength" program that I encouraged all rape victims to attend. It's taught by several women (non police officers) and instructs women on not only some rudimentary self defense tactics, but how to walk and act in a manner as not to appear to be a victim. One simple thing is just walking like you have confidence and a purpose. Some people (not just women) are obviously expecting to be the victim of some crime or the other.
The self defense tactics are not judo throws and other stuff that no one remembers how to do, but to start yelling aggressively at an attacker, etc. If nothing else that will make an attacker run and wait for a more compliant victim. It's very effective training because it's all things that are easy to remember and not something really all that unnatural.
humor me
05-04-10, 11:05 PM
Do you have any suggestions for those with mobility issues? I use a mobility service dog most of the time, but if she is ill, or I have to go somewhere she can't (like an MRI, it will erase her microchip), I wouldn't leave her in the car in weather that was too hot or too cold. I would also worry about someone stealing her. Also, being a service dog, she is not trained to protect. As a matter of fact, service dogs showing aggression are retired immediately. I keep hoping that just the presence of a dog is enough to discourage someone.
humor me & 4paw drive
retdetsgt
05-05-10, 12:03 AM
Just be aware of your surroundings and as I've said several times, trust your gut.
JoetheGI
05-05-10, 01:41 AM
I keep hoping that just the presence of a dog is enough to discourage someone.
In most cases, it will be.
A dog adds an aspect of the unknown which many criminals will avoid. IE, will the dog bark, bite, etc... This is good for you.
Even an untrained dog has the potential to act as an alarm by barking, which may draw attention and trigger a call to LEO's for support. There have also been cases where untrained dogs have bitten potential bad guys, and shown enough aggression to deter assaults.
They truly are mans' best friend.
SHH 1313
05-05-10, 07:42 AM
I am sure many have heard placing your keys between your fingers and clenching the K-chain w/ your fist as a weapon. I was told go for the eyes of your attacker.
Comments please...
retdetsgt
05-05-10, 08:53 AM
I am sure many have heard placing your keys between your fingers and clenching the K-chain w/ your fist as a weapon. I was told go for the eyes of your attacker.
In the real world, most people and especially women won't do that when push comes to shove. There's a technique that easily done that can pop the eyeballs out of a man, literally. But it takes a certain personality to be able to do that, even to someone who's trying to hurt you.
Studies have shown that the majority of people who carry guns aren't going to be able so shoot someone if pointing the gun fails.
That's why things that are more natural work better, like yelling "NO" as loud as you can and numerous times. I had one potential rape victim unnerve her attacker by reciting the Lord's Prayer over and over in a fairly loud voice.
Pookie44
05-05-10, 03:35 PM
Good job, Pookie!
The premise of the book I mentioned is that we subconsciously learn to read body language of others. Even though you may not have realized it, there was something in the way those guys were standing, talking or something that set off an alarm in your subconscious.
Good cops develop that to an art form. Being able to tell if someone is potentially violent is not as easy as it looks. The guy yelling and screaming may not appear to really be a threat where the person who is quiet, but if you notice his fists are clinched, arms stiff, etc., you better be careful. I can tell when my wife is really pissed by the way her voice octave gets a little deeper than usual. That's when I start choosing my words very carefully....
As my daughters grew up, I always told them to believe their guts when they got an "uh oh" feeling and get out of whatever situation they were in. Both have told me it served them well.
Thanks!! I've learned to always go with my gut. Funny story.....There was this big burly guy knocking at my door, so I said without opening thew door WHO IS IT ( note I made my voice sound like a man. He said I'm a sales guy for Kurbie vacooms. So I anserwerd the door.... he busted up cuz I was a girl LOL
humor me
05-05-10, 08:42 PM
In the real world, most people and especially women won't do that when push comes to shove. There's a technique that easily done that can pop the eyeballs out of a man, literally. But it takes a certain personality to be able to do that, even to someone who's trying to hurt you.
Ummm... actually, I think I could do that! I also wouldn't think twice about "crushing his grapes", so to speak. I have this high level of self-preservation after having the c**p beat out of me in elementary school at least twice a week. I finally got to where I was defending myself against kids 2 grades higher than me. I have a brother that is "different", and back then, that automatically made us targets. I just wish I knew about the "grapes" back then! I could have shortened a lot of fights.
Studies have shown that the majority of people who carry guns aren't going to be able so shoot someone if pointing the gun fails.
I wouldn't even consider a gun. I have only been around them enough to know the world is probably safer without me trying to carry one.
That's why things that are more natural work better, like yelling "NO" as loud as you can and numerous times. I had one potential rape victim unnerve her attacker by reciting the Lord's Prayer over and over in a fairly loud voice.
Yelling I have no trouble with... as long as I'm not so freaked out my voice freezes. My kids will tell you I'm a very effective yeller. :lol:
humor me & 4paw drive
SHH 1313
05-11-10, 06:45 AM
I thought I would mention this , back in my younger day's my girlfriend and I were in Deep Ellum. It is a blues district, naturally we were just the 2 of us. Now she is 6'2 bare foot and was wearing heels.
Well anyway, we were parked quite a distance away from the car and were walking back to it. WELL.....I knew we were being followed at a distance. Now downtown Dallas is not the best place for unescorted ladies to go on a weekend.
So I said, Carla these guys are gaining on us and no telling what's gonna happen. On the count of three and I mean it!!! Turn around and run straight at them as fast as you can yelling as loud as you can!
We did, by the grace of God, we scared the bejeeezzus outta them! Guess we were just lucky. They turned and ran !!! The moral of this story always have a male friend to go with you in questionable parts of town.