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I have a two part question? I am a former military police officer broward county community college turned me down including the dean saying my MP academy hrs are not comparable to civilian police hours so they suggest I go to a regular police academy.I contacted Ft.lwood they said I have the same hours of all mps;so I contacted FDLE they told me that just because bcc told me I didnt have enough to meet requirements that maybe another college would say I am good to go.Problem with that is it cost close to $200 dllrs for the college to review your records and FDLE wouldn't tell me who is backing up MP trainning I dont care if it is located at the top of florida I'LL GO,2nd question? 8yr rule means not 8yrs since MP academy or 8yrs exp?? Please help me after 7mnt of waiting for JUPITER PD to hire me they called me and said not sponsering anymore but if I get certified give them a call ITS GETTING FUSTRATING Im 36 and need to start job now not getting younger. who will except my mp exp????

wow this hurt my eyes. Maybe a class on spelling and grammar should be the first thing on your agenda???? and thats not being mean, cant help if we cant read it

In the military section I have a "sticky" up about this exact thing. Florida is on the list of states that will allow MP as basic qualification.

I'm a former MP and spoke to a FDLE representitive around three years ago. I was told that MP experience will qualify in lieu of their basic academy, as long as you can pass the two-week EOT.

For what it's worth at the very least, I know for a fact that Palm Beach Community College's criminal justice academy will evaluate and accept basic MP course.

I wasn't aware that some academies in Florida wouldn't accept MP. That's news to me. I was under the impression that since the State will allow it, I didn't think there would be a more restrictive requirement.

Again, go to the Military section. I've got a whole thing about this permanently posted up there. Good luck. :)

Thank you MP-Steve.I did go to the Military section Information from 2003 to 2007 was found,however things have changed.Selection centers now are the determinig factor of approval into the EOT program,FDLE does not review records anymore. If you know for sure that Palm beach will accept Mp's I will try them Monday.Thankyou MP-Steve.

Please excuse any oversight in grammer or mispellings,however this isnt a thesis and when is the last time anyone started a sentence with wow?and CAPITALIZE the (W) Next time try to answer a ? than critique Momma always said "you AINT got nothing nice to say than shut the hell UP".

Next time try to answer a ? than critique Momma always said "you AINT got nothing nice to say than shut the hell UP".

Something my momma always told me was "When you're asking someone for advice, listen to any advice they give you".

Being able to string two sentences together in writing is a fairly important skill for a cop, unless you're one of those guys who's happy to just write tickets for twenty years. No, you're not writing a thesis here. But if you can't be bothered to write a coherent sentence to ask your question, why should anyone be bothered to write one to answer it?

You got good advice from both of the posters who answered you.

Thank you for your input 360,as I told Lax Please feel free to post knowledge on a subject if you have any,the problem with this world is people love to find faults in others and bring it to their attention,meanwhile the main subject goes ignored.You to have not given one iota of advice to the question at hand,is this what your momma taught you?.I believe at my age and being in law enf. for many years;a report will be written in good grammer and proper format,however please note you did respond,so you mustve been able to put my terrible and improper sentences together,thesis or not. Thank you

tell your BI that when youre filling out paperwork to get hired! screw it, its not a thesis so why do you need to actually make sense when you write???? you want to be a professional, then act professional!

Thank you for your input 360,as I told Lax Please feel free to post knowledge on a subject if you have any,the problem with this world is people love to find faults in others and bring it to their attention,meanwhile the main subject goes ignored.You to have not given one iota of advice to the question at hand,is this what your momma taught you?.I believe at my age and being in law enf. for many years;a report will be written in good grammer and proper format,however please note you did respond,so you mustve been able to put my terrible and improper sentences together,thesis or not. Thank you

To everyone's defense, I must say that I do agree with them. I always do my best to write properly and use correct grammer whether it's writing a report or replying to a member on this forum.

When I go to the range for qualification, I do the best that I can and try to make well above the qualification standards. When I go to the range on my own time, I still hold myself to the same standard, since nothing really changes.

I'd rather write correctly all the time, no matter what it's for, to keep up on my grammer than get reports kicked back for stupid little punctuation and spelling errors. It's also a pride thing, I suppose. I always try my best in everything, whether or not I actually end up being good at it or not. :o

Just a thought.

Please dont get me wrong all of your statements of writing a report are very true. MP Steve of all people should know that because if grammer or spelling is incorrect, desk Sgts love to use a colored marker to glorify errors" wich in return means no other Mps can get off duty till you rewrite your report.That people is imputed in your deepest soul..lol, who wants to be the guy everyone is waiting on? With that said;I have looked at the different threads and have seen LAX rebuke many people with the same comments on mispellings and improper format;however never answering the question at hand. In 1993 a chicago fire killed 17 people,all could have been prevented if security would've listened to a lady warning them of the fire,however thier ears were closed because they told her SHE WAS IN AN EMPLOYEE ONLY AREA" Lets not be those guards.

Wow' is right you have been surrounded by wolves. Poor guy came to ask a question and got one answer and that same person then took a bite. To all you that don't know Military Police have some of the most strictive rules on report writings.I believe the boy can write a correct report with few mistakes,but who does'nt?. Fdle does except MPs at brevard county community college.I also have been told they are hiring too. goodluck"

Thankyou Ronin' My attempts at contacting Palm beach have not been successful; I dont know if they are out of town or something, 9 messages left since Mp Steve told me about them. I'll try Brevard and let you know what happens.

I linked to this site (Real Police) off of a thread, posted on google. I didn't read the inital stickys,wich showed some kinda of ground rules on asking a expert for advice.Please excuse my grammer,spelling, or not paragraphing correctly.I have been out of school for at least 17 yrs now and have been in construction at least 80% of those years. A wise man listens to correction; and so maybe a touch up course couldn't hurt. However there is a tactful way of approaching someone on a issue;and the way some people show rebuke of errors is no more productive than the original fault. However I would like to say THANKYOU ALL for your service and taking the time to answering my question.I am guilty of over looking that fact before I posted.

Please dont get me wrong all of your statements of writing a report are very true. MP Steve of all people should know that because if grammer or spelling is incorrect, desk Sgts love to use a colored marker to glorify errors" wich in return means no other Mps can get off duty till you rewrite your report.That people is imputed in your deepest soul..lol, who wants to be the guy everyone is waiting on? With that said;I have looked at the different threads and have seen LAX rebuke many people with the same comments on mispellings and improper format;however never answering the question at hand. In 1993 a chicago fire killed 17 people,all could have been prevented if security would've listened to a lady warning them of the fire,however thier ears were closed because they told her SHE WAS IN AN EMPLOYEE ONLY AREA" Lets not be those guards.

I agree with you about the red pen and marker thing from Desk Sergeants! :)

I've had my share of reports kicked back. When I was TDY to a post in Europe, I swear that the MPs there had memorized the way each desk sergeant would want something worded. It depended on what shift you worked on how you would word certain things! :D

I'm not an MP anymore, and I'm working on getting that removed from my member name.

To all you that don't know Military Police have some of the most strictive rules on report writings.

Really??? Do they get to use cool words like "strictive" that they just make up??

:rolleyes:

As to the original question, while the training centers can use their own criteria to admit applicants to the EOT course as they still fit, you still have to meet the minimum requirements as stated by CJSTC in order to become a certified LEO in Florida. It would suck if you went through the EOT course and then found out that CJSTC wouldn't certify you. Those things are:


Go to a qualifying academy
Full-time LEO for at least one full year (after all training is completed)
Less than eight years from the time you last worked in LE until the time you make your application
Perform the duties of a typical law enforcement officer during your experience


While CJSTC does recognize MP training as qualifying, the last requirement tends to disqualify many MPs. The applicant MUST perform full-time LEO duties for the employment to be considered qualifying, and these duties are what civilian LEOs do (answering calls for service, traffic enforcement, investigating crimes, etc.). If you did not work as a garrison MP conducting those duties then your time is not qualifying. Anything that is security related (working a gate) or not directly associated with the duties of a civilian LEO doesn't count. Most of the training centers have began to scrutinize this requirement much more closely than they did in years past.

Really??? Do they get to use cool words like "strictive" that they just make up??

I must say that these posters are making the MP Corps look bad in the spelling and grammar department. :o

I try to take pride in my writing, especially in my reports (then and now).



If you did not work as a garrison MP conducting those duties then your time is not qualifying. Anything that is security related (working a gate) or not directly associated with the duties of a civilian LEO doesn't count. Most of the training centers have began to scrutinize this requirement much more closely than they did in years past.

I'm not criticizing the process, but how would anyone know what the MP did as far as duties are concerned? :confused:

Military records don't reflect whether or not an MP was performing a law enforcement related task or a combat support mission. Even MPs in Iraq's duties are blended. I haven't been, but if you type in "radar gun" in a search engine and click the wikipedia listing there clearly shows an MP in DCU's running radar at a military post in Iraq. So was that MP engaged in a law enforcement related task or was he on a combat support mission? :confused:

Even MP units are sometimes confusing. There are some that are strictly combat support and a few that are strictly law enforcement. Most of the CS units even conduct rotations on L&O duties.

How would FDLE determain if the applicant actually had the qualifying experience? :confused:

The applicant is expected to tell the truth when they list the duties that they performed and the percentage of the time that they performed LE duties. All of this information is subject to being confirmed with former commanding officers. As with anything else in the CJSTC process, misrepresenting anything is grounds for permanent disqualification from becoming a FL LEO.

The reason that this is becoming more scrutinized is the fact that the traditional police duties at most military installations have been moved to DoD Police. This is becoming the case in every branch of the military. I've even heard from someone who works at a training center that the CJSTC is exploring putting an end to military police experience being allowed for EOT. Many feel that it is a loophole that allows people who really have a very limited amount of traditional LE experience to come into the state as an experienced officer. Keep in mind that most uniformed federal LEOs do not meet CJSTC's standards for EOT.

I'm not trying to discount what MPs do, I'm just saying that it's becoming more and more difficult to get accepted into an EOT program based on military experience. I think the original poster has proven that as well with the trouble he's been having finding a training center to accept him.

No they admit who they SEE fit;smarty:rolleyes: That is why Steve;" I too" dont try to put in my two sense in every one-elses conversation.Lest I support a screw-up also.

No they admit who they SEE fit;smarty:rolleyes: That is why Steve;" I too" dont try to put in my two sense in every one-elses conversation.Lest I support a screw-up also.

Wow and this was the edited version. :eek:

Would have hated to have seen the unedited version, since the edited version is barely coherent.

That is why Steve;" I too" dont try to put in my two sense in every one-elses conversation.Lest I support a screw-up also.

Hmm....it seems from your posts that you've already done both.

The applicant is expected to tell the truth when they list the duties that they performed and the percentage of the time that they performed LE duties. All of this information is subject to being confirmed with former commanding officers. As with anything else in the CJSTC process, misrepresenting anything is grounds for permanent disqualification from becoming a FL LEO.

The reason that this is becoming more scrutinized is the fact that the traditional police duties at most military installations have been moved to DoD Police. This is becoming the case in every branch of the military. I've even heard from someone who works at a training center that the CJSTC is exploring putting an end to military police experience being allowed for EOT. Many feel that it is a loophole that allows people who really have a very limited amount of traditional LE experience to come into the state as an experienced officer. Keep in mind that most uniformed federal LEOs do not meet CJSTC's standards for EOT.

I'm not trying to discount what MPs do, I'm just saying that it's becoming more and more difficult to get accepted into an EOT program based on military experience. I think the original poster has proven that as well with the trouble he's been having finding a training center to accept him.
DeltaV,

I must agree with you. I enjoyed being an MP, even as a reservist, but there are soldiers that I’ve worked with who I wouldn’t want having that advantage of walking in through a back door. Back when I first learned of EOT, I was a supporter and was excited that there were states out there who would accept MP experience. Now not so much.
Don’t get me wrong, there are some outstanding MPs out there who would make great cops, but it seems there are just as many who would give the MP corps a bad name.

I wonder what federal LEOs are excluded from EOT? There are a few agencies out there that do strictly and significantly more law enforcement than an MP would ever do, and the MP to qualify for EOT and the fed not to, that just doesn’t seem right.


No they admit who they SEE fit;smarty:rolleyes: That is why Steve;" I too" dont try to put in my two sense in every one-elses conversation.Lest I support a screw-up also.

Perhaps it’s just the drugs that I’m on for my pain, but I have absolutely no understanding of what you are attempting to get across.

Please for the love of God tell me that you’re not an MP, too? :(

I wonder what federal LEOs are excluded from EOT? There are a few agencies out there that do strictly and significantly more law enforcement than an MP would ever do, and the MP to qualify for EOT and the fed not to, that just doesn’t seem right.

It all has to do with the amount of training hours at FLETC and the duties that the officers conduct. With the feds, it's on almost an agency by agency basis of whether or not the training qualifies. I know that officers from GSA and the VA do not qualify for EOT, while others from agencies like the Capital Police would qualify. With agencies like Customs, certain positions meet the EOT qualifications while others do not. It can be a bit confusing.

It all has to do with the amount of training hours at FLETC and the duties that the officers conduct. With the feds, it's on almost an agency by agency basis of whether or not the training qualifies. I know that officers from GSA and the VA do not qualify for EOT, while others from agencies like the Capital Police would qualify. With agencies like Customs, certain positions meet the EOT qualifications while others do not. It can be a bit confusing.

Yeah I was thinking agencies like the U.S. Capitol Police or U.S. Park Police would most certainly qualify.

I don't know as much about the USCP, but atleast the Park Police functions almost entirely as a full-service, urban police force. It would make sense for them to equlify for EOT, while the more security oriented police positions would not.

I was talking to the PBCC about using my MP experience for EOT. I rode along with Palm Beach Gardens PD and knew that was an area I'd want to live and a department I'd love to work for.

Unfortunately my life had different plans and now I'm nowhere near Florida anyway. I've got time on my side though, being in my early twenties. ;)

No they admit who they SEE fit;smarty:rolleyes: That is why Steve;" I too" dont try to put in my two sense in every one-elses conversation.Lest I support a screw-up also.


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