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Just to open the thread.

Other germans here (except Driet and Logfiler)?

hi patch

hi patch

LoL ... are you German or are you just sending some special greetings?

LoL ... are you German or are you just sending some special greetings?

lol yeah, i was just saying hi to patch. Hadn't picked on him in awhile so I felt it was due.

Was ist das? :D

There, that's my german!

I've been to Germany. Does that count? Oh ya. Happy me for hitting post 1000! And I've only been a member since '04. What a lurker.

I've been to Germany. Does that count? Oh ya. Happy me for hitting post 1000! And I've only been a member since '04. What a lurker.

That count!!! Where have you being?

Not from there, but lived there for a couple years in Augsburg and Brussum, Netherlands and Belgium for 6.5 years.

I've been to Heidenheim (an der Brenz), and Berlin as an exchange student. But that was 18 years ago.

I toured with my High School choir 4 years ago. We flew into Berlin and stayed in Bad Schmiedeberg, Leipzig, Meisen, and Dresden on our way down to Prague. It was awesome. I must say that I most enjoyed Leipzig. An amazing city. And I will hopefully be returning this summer to visit a friend of mine who has an internship in Munich. I'm rather excited. I think Germany is the only country outside of the US that I could ever see myself living.

Just to open the thread.

Other germans here (except Driet and Logfiler)?

Yes... :D I am from Dortmund. Not far away from cologne! :D

Yes... :D I am from Dortmund. Not far away from cologne! :D

whoa get her patch :)

I just came back from a trip to Germany. Do I count too?

whoa get her patch :)

Believe it or not, we both wear the same state police patch on our left shoulder, Dortmund is within my state.

@ histfan: Why don't you mailed me before you come over, maybe I had the chance to met you personally.
Off course, it counts!!!!

@ histfan: Why don't you mailed me before you come over, maybe I had the chance to met you personally.
Off course, it counts!!!!

Patch,

Als ich eine Antwort auf meine letzte Anzeige nicht an Sie gelangte, dachte ich, das accidently etwas auf meinen Schülerdeutsch gesagt wurde, der Sie beleidigte.

Eng. trans: When I didn't get a reply to my last message to you, I thought I accidently said something in my schoolboy German that offended you.

Patch, I loved your country so much that I am planning on coming back soon. I have even enrolled in German language classes to improve my German, even though I read it much better than I speak it.

Patch,

Als ich eine Antwort auf meine letzte Anzeige nicht an Sie gelangte, dachte ich, das accidently etwas auf meinen Schülerdeutsch gesagt wurde, der Sie beleidigte.

Eng. trans: When I didn't get a reply to my last message to you, I thought I accidently said something in my schoolboy German that offended you.

Patch, I loved your country so much that I am planning on coming back soon. I have even enrolled in German language classes to improve my German, even though I read it much better than I speak it.

If you come over next time try to spent a day or two in my area (Cologne, Bonn, Dusseldorf) and we can have a beer or two. And, BTW, I've answered to all of your messages and letters. Maybe it got lost in the Nirvana (world wide web)?:D Great to hear that you had a great trip around here. Where have you been?

Grüß Dich Patch!

Nächstes Mal wenn ich nach Deutschland ich wille für sicheres reise, stoppen Sie durch Ihre Stadt

Ich reiste nach München und nach Ingolstadt in Deutschland und Salzburg in Österreich. Ich mochte wirklich Ingolstadt. Ich sah eine Ausstellung, die "60 Jahre Polizei im Bayern" am Bayerischen Armeemuseum genannt wurde. Ich erlernte viel über Polizei in Deutschland.

Jeder, das ich in Deutschland traf, war sehr nett und nützlich und bildete die Extrabemühung, mich Gefühlwillkommen, außer einem verrückten ticketseller am Bayerischen Armeemuseum zu bilden, aber die ist eine andere Geschichte.

Eng. Trans: The next time I travel to Germany I will for sure stop by your city.

I traveled to Munich and Ingolstadt in Germany, and Salzburg in Austria. I really liked Ingolstadt. I saw an exhibit called "60 Years of Police in Bavaria" at the Bavarian Army Museum. I learned a lot about police in Germany.

Everyone I met in Germany was very nice and helpful, and made the extra effort to make me feel welcome, except for one crazy ticketseller at the Bavarian Army Museum, but that is another story.

Grüß Dich Patch!

Nächstes Mal wenn ich nach Deutschland ich wille für sicheres reise, stoppen Sie durch Ihre Stadt

Ich reiste nach München und nach Ingolstadt in Deutschland und Salzburg in Österreich. Ich mochte wirklich Ingolstadt. Ich sah eine Ausstellung, die "60 Jahre Polizei im Bayern" am Bayerischen Armeemuseum genannt wurde. Ich erlernte viel über Polizei in Deutschland.

Jeder, das ich in Deutschland traf, war sehr nett und nützlich und bildete die Extrabemühung, mich Gefühlwillkommen, außer einem verrückten ticketseller am Bayerischen Armeemuseum zu bilden, aber die ist eine andere Geschichte.

Eng. Trans: The next time I travel to Germany I will for sure stop by your city.

I traveled to Munich and Ingolstadt in Germany, and Salzburg in Austria. I really liked Ingolstadt. I saw an exhibit called "60 Years of Police in Bavaria" at the Bavarian Army Museum. I learned a lot about police in Germany.

Everyone I met in Germany was very nice and helpful, and made the extra effort to make me feel welcome, except for one crazy ticketseller at the Bavarian Army Museum, but that is another story.

LMK when you come over and I will see to hold an evening free to went out for a couple of beers or anything else. Maybe driet and/or Logfiler will acompany us, they are also members of this forum and work in my PCT.

October of 1982 I came to your wonderful country for Reforger while I was in the USAF.

Spent 10 days in the woods near Zweibrucken which I believe was part of the old WWII Sigrfried line. There are still WWII pillboxes around and we were told to keep out as some may have been boobytrapped.

October of 1982 I came to your wonderful country for Reforger while I was in the USAF.

Spent 10 days in the woods near Zweibrucken which I believe was part of the old WWII Sigrfried line. There are still WWII pillboxes around and we were told to keep out as some may have been boobytrapped.

Yep, that was told long years. Today everything is safe here. Sometimes a couple of Stupidheads went through the woods of Hurttgenwald with a metall detector and find some real bad stuff that is able to explode. But I have no mercy with them. After 70 years none except a bomb technican should touch this stuff.

Here in the city we have it a few times a year that bomb alert is called in a construction scene.In 1944 and 1945 you guys and those from the island (Great Britain) bomb my city several times. After the war houses are builded fast in the city and when they got deleted and a new building should be built, sometimes they find old bombs from WW II. After all the years they are very dangerous and this is one of the very few things I have respect for.

Hey Patch,

Are the people with metal detectors in the forest looking for unexploded bombs, or are they looking for soldier's graves to loot. I have read about people, mostly in Eastern Europe, digging up war graves to sell the equipment and uniform items found in the graves. Such behavior deeply offends me. Graves should be left alone.

Hey Patch,

Are the people with metal detectors in the forest looking for unexploded bombs, or are they looking for soldier's graves to loot. I have read about people, mostly in Eastern Europe, digging up war graves to sell the equipment and uniform items found in the graves. Such behavior deeply offends me. Graves should be left alone.

We have both kinds of people. Most are only looking for war souveniers, others are sellers. And, you're right. In Russia and other easter block countries they are like the b**** in Egypt, they are in the graves to loot them. That is really bad.

My grandfather got caught by GIs in WW II as a POW in the Hürtgenwald ... we drove there to the 50-year veterans meeting. It was very impressive, there are really many collectors in this area.

My grandfather got caught by GIs in WW II as a POW in the Hürtgenwald ... we drove there to the 50-year veterans meeting. It was very impressive, there are really many collectors in this area.

Driet,

I went to a beer garden in Concordia Park in Munich. In one corner of the beer garden I noticed a fancy memorial to the beer garden employees who were killed in WWI. The memorial was made of marble had all the names engraved and even had the carved profile of a helmeted German soldier and an Iron Cross on the memorial. The simplicity and the obvious care and pride the locals took in the memorial was quite moving.

Right below the WWI memorial was a small oval plaque that was obviously a memorial to the beer garden employees killed during WWII. The plaque only had the dates "1939-1945" and the names of the soldiers killed listed below. The date and the names were only painted on the oval plaque, and the WWII plaque was not as well maintained as the WWI memorial. I did not realize that the German people felt so differently about their soldiers who served in WWI and those who served in WWII. I realize that the military is unpopular in Germany since WWII, but judging from the condition of the WWII memorial plaque the German people think the soldiers who fought in WWII deserve to be forgotten. Is that the attitude of most Germans?

Sorry I cannot translate this into German; it is far beyond my abilities.

We have both kinds of people. Most are only looking for war souveniers, others are sellers. And, you're right. In Russia and other easter block countries they are like the b**** in Egypt, they are in the graves to loot them. That is really bad.

Patch,

When I was working on Kwaj there were many Japanese fortifications on the islands left over from the war. Many of the American teenagers visiting Roi-Namur from Kwaj thought it was cute to carve their names into the walls of some of the concrete bunkers. I thought it was obscene to deface bunkers that brave men fought and died in and around, both American and Japanese. Late at night I would patrol the bunkers and try to catch anyone defacing them, but I was never able to.

I did not realize that the German people felt so differently about their soldiers who served in WWI and those who served in WWII. I realize that the military is unpopular in Germany since WWII, but judging from the condition of the WWII memorial plaque the German people think the soldiers who fought in WWII deserve to be forgotten. Is that the attitude of most Germans?

Woo, that is reaching my English abilities, I'll give it a try.

After WWII the national pride of the German was destroyed and because of the holocaust it was replaced with a big blame. The winning nations bordered? Germany for ages, the governace was placed under disability. We payed millions as reparations, and are still paying.
If you look at my grandfather, you look partially at a broken man - he gave his best in the infantry as a foot soldier. He was a POW and came back home as a loser. Every right to be proud of his service was officially denied (maybe it is a littlebit like with the vietnam vets). My father was born into nothing just after the war. The generation of my grandparents worked a lot to rebuilt their lives and drowned the war memories in superficial parties.

While my father was directly integrated in this mood, my generation is the first one I think, which can freely speak and think about the war. Bit by bit you can be proud of being a German again, but you still have to be careful. You can't imagine how often we are called "Nazis" in duty, just because of doing traffic checks on patch's international buddies in our PCT.

As you see - even if my statement is very general - because of the big historian blame, it is even today not easy to handle national pride as a German, especially in the view of WWII. At this topic you have to think first, then to speak - it's socially implated over generations.

Germany is a great place to visit and they have very good beer too, but Germany is not what it used to be just five years ago. I should rather say, German people's attitude towards Americans has drastically changed! There is an anti-American sentiment especially in the Stuttgart area because of the war. I can't say the same for Bavaria region though, so I guess it all depends where you go and who you're with. Personally, I can hardly wait to go back to the states.

Germany is a great place to visit and they have very good beer too, but Germany is not what it used to be just five years ago. I should rather say, German people's attitude towards Americans has drastically changed! There is an anti-American sentiment especially in the Stuttgart area because of the war. I can't say the same for Bavaria region though, so I guess it all depends where you go and who you're with. Personally, I can hardly wait to go back to the states.

My own personal experience was very different, although I did not go to Stuttgart. Every German I met, with one exception, was very nice and welcoming. That one exception I think was just a nut, and not anti-American. I was even thanked by some for trying to speak in German, and not speaking in English unless I absolutely had to. I can hardly wait to leave the States and get back to Germany, even for just a short trip.

Servus leute Ich bin halb Deutsch. Geboren und aufgewachsen in Marktleuthen landkreis Wunsiedel. Vater war in der US Armee und Mutter ist Deutsch. Ich selbst bin jetzt in der US Armee. Ich war stationiert in Budingen Armstrong Barracks fur zwei jahren. Ich wurde gerne zuruck aber wurde unwahrscheinlich nicht passieren. Mein Deutsche Staatsburgerschaft habe Ich aufgegeben um den Beitritt zur Armee. Ich mochte auch Deutsche Polizist sein aber ohne Deutsches Staatsburgerschaft wird es schwierig sein.

Naja chow Brian.

Histfan has us in good old Germany visit, the pictures were lost ... but I have the community photo yet found

Here the big one



rapidshare.com/files/210064888/usabesuch.rar

Sascha, work on the pic please.

Seen on the pic left to right

histfan71, logfiler, patchcop and driet

It was a great november day with a few beers and some history and war stories:D

Please accept my deepest apologizes that it took so long for me to respond. I hardly ever check this forum anymore, but that is not an excuse. I was not intentionally ignoring anyone.

I had a wonderful time in Cologne with Patchcop, Logfiler, and Driet. They made me feel right at home and treated me like a long-lost friend. I will never forget their kindness and hospitality. They proved that all cops are brothers no matter where in world they patrol their beat.

Patch took the time to show me around Cologne and gave me a VIP tour of his police station. I discovered that there are more similarities between police work in Germany and America than there are differences. He really put the culture and history of Cologne and NRW into proper perspective for me.

We met up with Logfiler and Driet later in the day at the local pub and spent a few hours there in comradely fellowship. I was introduced to this wonderful beverage called "Koelsh!" Koelsh is a very tasty and flavorful lager beer brewed only in Cologne. I miss Cologne and my new friends already and would love to return if I am welcome back.

Also, if anyone was wondering I did not experience any anti-American sentiments from anyone I met in Germany, both times I was there. Every German I met and spoke with was nothing but friendly, polite, and helpful. I think some of the stories you hear about Americans having a difficult time in Europe have been exaggerated.

Histfan, havin' a beer with you was a pleasure to me.
You're welcome again any time.
Good luck with your future plans,

driet

Grϋss Dich Driet!

Es war ein Vergnügen, Sie, Logfiler, und Patchcop auch kennen zu lernen. In diesem Jahr bringe ich einen Urlaub nach Italien, aber das Jahr, nachdem ich beim Reisen nach Belgien und Holland plane. Da das nicht weit von Köln ist, das wir wieder für noch einen Kölsch trinken können!

English Translation:

Hello Driet!

It was a pleasure to get to know you, Logfiler, and Patchcop also. This year I am taking a vacation to Italy, but the year after I am planning on traveling to Belgium and Holland. Since that is not far from Cologne we can meet again for some more Kölsch!

I'm sure the "Cornely" will order some extra beer tubs for us. Next time you're here I will make sure that I don't have to drive back home personally:D so I have the chance to drink a few Koelsch more:eek:
You're welcome back anytime, bro.

I transfered your mail to Sascha but, please write only in English. Your translation programm is pure horror " Pistol food to take away" was the translation in German your program wrote OMG;):D

We were in Munich for Oktoberfest last year. Sat at a table with a guy that was in the German Army in WWII and a bunch of guys my age. We got way too drunk and talked about the war for SIX HOURS! The time was one of the highlights of my life. I absolutely loved Munich. To this day the memories of my trip to Dachau give me chills. We also travelled to Salzburg which we loved. Then three days in Paris. Honestly? We should have let the Germans keep Paris. Paris sucks.

Anyway, my girlfriend and I will be back in Germany September 1 for 10 days. I have lived in the middle east, South America and the Caribbean and though I love living in Florida, I adore Germany and Austria. Going to Frankfurt, Karlsruhe(?) Fussen and Wurzburg this time. Also gonna hit Interlaken, Switzerland and do a little driving through Osterreich.

Any suggestions?

Well the wife is, by way of Arkansas. :p:D

But it has been several generations since they snuck into the USA.

Any suggestions?

Cologne, for sure :-) I am sure, good ol' Patch will catch you up here. But this here is more the west, as you're travelling the middle and southern Germany.

BTW, as you mentioned it, how old are you? I am glad anyway, that you can talk about the WWII public those days ... it was out of bounds for a long time after the war. Talked a lot about that with my grandpa, who was a foot soldier.

Cologne, for sure :-) I am sure, good ol' Patch will catch you up here. But this here is more the west, as you're travelling the middle and southern Germany.

BTW, as you mentioned it, how old are you? I am glad anyway, that you can talk about the WWII public those days ... it was out of bounds for a long time after the war. Talked a lot about that with my grandpa, who was a foot soldier.

I'm 39. WWII is something that just fascinates me. One of the people I was talking to was my age. We had a rather philosophical discussion on how it would be that 70 years ago, on that very ground, we would be trying to kill each other.

It was great. He explained to me German culture and yelled at me when I poured what was left of my old beer into my new beer. "Don't mix ze old gas vis ze new gas."

Also gonna hit Interlaken, Switzerland and do a little driving through Osterreich.

Any suggestions?

Oh yes, hold the speed limit when you're in Austria and Switzerland. Esp. Switzerland has horror fines for not obeying the speedlimit and a lot of cops there should not know brother and sister when they catch a speeder:(
In Austria they'll give you a fine when you ride 53 km/h when 50 km/h are allowed:mad:

So stay in Germany, we are one of the countries with the lowest fines for speeding (when you don't drive faster then 20 km/h over the limit;) the fine will be maximum 35,- Euro) all above that will be expensive also!!!!

And - I PM you when I worked something out for your round trip!!!! For myself, I'm not in the Cologne area between september 2nd and 22nd - medical reasons:o

I visit Germany each year when touring my motorcycle trough the "eiffel".

Each year we go there with some 40 cops for tree days riding our motorcycles and burn rubber

I visit Germany each year when touring my motorcycle trough the "eiffel".

Each year we go there with some 40 cops for tree days riding our motorcycles and burn rubber

Have heart of that, too bad I am not a biker yet, no licence. So, have fun in the Eifel - although the traffic police is doing it's best to fight rubber burns in this region ...