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ILCadet401
02-27-08, 10:12 PM
Hello everyone....
Just thought it was worth mentioning...my post has just purchased new uniforms. We are switching from the classic light blue button down, to polo shirts. We purchased short sleeve polos for the summer, and long sleeve polos with jackets for winter.
We made the switch due to the fact that our old uniforms were just that, old. The village actually paid for the new ones, so we got lucky.
I know uniforms have been discussed on this forum more times than one can count, so I won't bug everyone by asking for a description of your uniforms. ;)
As always...stay safe.
Drummadude
02-27-08, 11:02 PM
Hah, lucky to get new uniforms. I'm not sure about your old uniforms, but ours were bought at the law enforcement store (the owner just charged the department and sold the same items to all explorers), so they're brand new for everyone.
The thing I dislike about my post's uniforms is that they are economical but not great quality, and we don't have long sleeves. I was told once that I could just wear underarmour under my white class A, but that was later counteracted with "that's unprofessional". So I'm hoping we can get long sleeves... it's being thought about for us that do school football/basketball game duty.
You didn't ask, but I think you might want to know possibly:
Class B (partially issued):
-White, short sleeve polo. Silkscreened badge on front and silkscreened EXPLORER text in back.
-Navy Blue BDU shorts (required self purchase)
Class A (fully issued):
-Smith and Warren badge (mini with the eagle on top)
-white, short sleeve polyester shirt
-dark blue dress pants.. polyester
- Silver Name Plate (optional self purchase)
And that's all. I still don't understand why an ugly self-owned windbreaker with no markings is better than a long sleeve underarmour under a short sleeved shirt, but that's what my department believes.
I could do with just polos. I try to be fairly economical with cleaning my class A, because dry cleaning costs me $14. Doing so every week would be horrible with only one uniform. But with my polo (which I haven't worn since September) is just a throw in the wash and dryer deal. Much easier.
I do own a self-bought 5.11 TDU in black, which I wish I could use for explorers (used for school police but got screwed over because the school ended up not giving insurance... so we just use the explorer uniforms now). That is a fairly easy uniform to take care of.
Im surprised you guys aren't going to have some kind of nice looking dress uniform. On patrol I recently switched from the traditional button up shirt and slacks to a tactical black jumpsuit; however; I wouldn't wear the jumpsuit to something like a funeral or an honor guard or an academy graduation, etc... It's nice to keep something around that you can still get gussied up in.
ILCadet401
02-28-08, 12:11 AM
Drummadude,
I was in your same boat. I am an explorer for 2 departments (So for clarification, the one with the new uniforms will be referred to as post 1, and the other one will be post 2)
Post #2, I only received a short sleeve button down. No jacket, no long sleeve. I started working soccer/football games, and here in Chicago, soccer season can actually get quite cold. So, I kept asking, and not getting any results. Finally, I decided that I wasn't going to get myself ill, so I just showed up in my personal all black jacket with a long sleeve shirt underneath my uniform shirt. I got asked about it of course, so I just told them that I would gladly work the event, but I wasn't going to get sick over it. (From the cold weather + rain). The next day, I received a jacket.
Not that you asked for my advice, but if I were you, I would talk to my advisor about the situation. By no means am I trying to be a smart *** complainer, but long sleeves and a jacket are important if you are going to be working outside.
I apologize for the long rant. I hope you get your long sleeves. Stay safe.
ILCadet401
02-28-08, 12:13 AM
Im surprised you guys aren't going to have some kind of nice looking dress uniform. On patrol I recently switched from the traditional button up shirt and slacks to a tactical black jumpsuit; however; I wouldn't wear the jumpsuit to something like a funeral or an honor guard or an academy graduation, etc... It's nice to keep something around that you can still get gussied up in.
We've thought about that, and they've decided that we will keep the older button down shirts at the Department in case a situation arises where we may need to be more formally dressed.
Back in my day .....
God that sounds awful, doesn't it? We bought our own uniforms; the department did not issue anything. I was an Explorer from 1986 - 1991.
Drummadude
02-28-08, 09:12 AM
Well late fall is generally pretty windy... so hopefully for football games I'll get a long sleeve by then. For the current time, I'm just assigned to roam around the inside of the school doing security, so the sleeves aren't that bad of a problem yet.
But I just find it funny that a coat that covers all markings is so much better than sleeves under short sleeves.
Also, other than getting insurance with explorers instead of the school police, people complained that we looked like police officers. But.... if I'm wearing a badge with a class A and the color of my shirt is the same as the Majors, Lieutenants and the Chief, how do I not look like a LEO? Other than a smaller badge and two explorer patches, it's still a law enforcement uniform.
Just kinda odd decisions my department makes, I guess.
patrick smith
02-29-08, 10:34 PM
Well, all my post had for the last year was a pair of pants + button up police shirt.
Well, now we're going to get a class B uniform and also:
* Flashlights + Holders
* Duty Belts
* Radios + Holders
* Name Bars + Rank Cheverons
* Discount Black True SWAT boots
* Real metal badges same as officers with "Explorer" on them.
Which is really awesome!
Our class A uniform has a gray shirt and black pants.
CelicaGuy
02-29-08, 11:58 PM
Tact. pants and uniform shirt for training
Dress Pants and Uniform shirt for Duty! (Same shirt officers have i.e. same patches, but it is light blue). But I am an advisor so I get to wear Dress pants, and Shirt and Tie!!!!!! I would much rather be wearing the uni!
patrick smith
03-01-08, 10:05 AM
My Police Explorer Program is having a remake and we have two openings for Sergents. I'm going to apply! It would be kind of neat to be a sergent!
–P47®1çk
Drummadude
03-01-08, 11:14 AM
It might help to know that it is spelled sergeant. Unless you are talking about a position with Sargento cheese or something.......
CelicaGuy
03-01-08, 03:11 PM
It might help to know that it is spelled sergeant. Unless you are talking about a position with Sargento cheese or something.......
Damn you beat me too it!!!! Damn You Drummadude!!!!!
patrick smith
03-01-08, 03:26 PM
Blast, I looked it up but all I could find was sargent!
*Growl*
*Spit*
*Snarl*
CelicaGuy
03-01-08, 03:33 PM
My Police Explorer Program is having a remake and we have two openings for Sergents. I'm going to apply! It would be kind of neat to be a sergent!
–P47®1çk
Still not right!!!!! SERGEANT!!
ILCadet401
03-01-08, 05:54 PM
They should make that a question on the test, "What rank are you attempting to obtain?"
I just stick with Sgt. Makes it easier. ;)
Drummadude
03-01-08, 08:05 PM
Do you want to become a lootehnunt too? Or a curpurol?
CelicaGuy
03-01-08, 08:08 PM
Do you want to become a lootehnunt too? Or a curpurol?
I am going for Sergeant at my current place of employment!
ILCadet401
03-01-08, 08:41 PM
In grade school I asked them if I could be Chief of Safety Patrol. :D
That didn't go over too well with them.
CelicaGuy
03-01-08, 09:00 PM
In grade school I asked them if I could be Chief of Safety Patrol. :D
That didn't go over too well with them.
Lol, WOW little kids rule!!!
In grade school I asked them if I could be Chief of Safety Patrol. :D
That didn't go over too well with them.
When I was in 6th grade, I went to a school for the first time with school crossing guards (students). These kids would not let anyone cross until a car came up that they could stop. Eventually we all just learned to walk 30ft down the street and just cross there.
Drummadude
03-02-08, 02:10 AM
Hah, in elementary school they had "crossing guards"... who were just fourth graders with a little neon orange belt. I'm not sure what they did exactly, because it wasn't anything to do with a crossing guard....... I think they just stood outside the school.
In middle school, nothing.
Now in high school, cops do the crossing guard deal.
Heh, Chief of Safety Patrol. :cool:
patrick smith
03-02-08, 10:38 AM
I stick with Sgt too. It's a lot safer. :P
I don't want to be a kernal or a lutanit or a captin or a coparul. :D Just a sargent....*cough* I mean Sargeant.
greenlead
03-02-08, 11:02 AM
I stick with Sgt too. It's a lot safer. :P
I don't want to be a kernal or a lutanit or a captin or a coparul. :D Just a sargent....*cough* I mean Sargeant.
I enjoyed my time as a Sergeant.
CelicaGuy
03-02-08, 04:58 PM
Good God Man Get It Right!!!!!!!
Sergeant
patrick smith
03-03-08, 08:33 AM
Heh, I knew it.
Sargeant.
Drummadude
03-03-08, 08:49 AM
Heh, I knew it.
Sargeant.
Nope.
patrick smith
03-03-08, 12:30 PM
Guys guys guys, I'm just playing witcha. :p
Sargeant...:confused:...seargent...:mad:... Sergeant! :D
Ta dah!
Sergeant!
:D
ILCadet401
03-03-08, 04:35 PM
Guys guys guys, I'm just playing witcha. :p
Sargeant...:confused:...seargent...:mad:...Sergean t! :D
Ta dah!
Sergeant!
:D
Edit: For some reason the forum is forcing a space between the "n" and the "t".
Clap Clap Clap. Congratulations! Now that the spelling is down, you have qualified to take the test.
I was about to have you write it 500 times on the blackboard. :p
patrick smith
03-03-08, 05:37 PM
Gosh, do you think I'm ready??? :D
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:D
Thats only two hundred but I can do five hundred if you want me too. :)
CelicaGuy
03-03-08, 07:40 PM
You herd the man, he said 500!!!!!
Man you gonna listen to your supervisors like that......now write them 500 SON!!!!!!!! :) ;)
patrick smith
03-03-08, 10:29 PM
SIR YES SIR!
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I hope I don't get banned for spamming. :o
ILCadet401
03-03-08, 11:36 PM
I'm picturing what my advisor would say in this situation...and I can't post it on this forum ;).
Well, now that we have the spelling of Sergeant down, I'm going to go completely left field on everybody and go back to the original topic of the thread, (gasp!). :p The uniforms.
I saw my new uniforms for the first time on Saturday. They were alright, theres a patched on star on the right, and the word "cadet" on the left. Dark blue.
But, I can't complain. The village paid. If it's free, it's for me.
CelicaGuy
03-04-08, 12:28 AM
:mad:
SIR YES SIR!
What are ya making a SIR sandwich or something!!!!
patrick smith
03-04-08, 08:21 AM
:D
I just found out that you can attach things to posts. Cool.
forumguy
03-04-08, 07:01 PM
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I hope I don't get banned for spamming. :o
Cutting and pasting doesnt count :p
forumguy
03-04-08, 07:02 PM
You herd the man, he said 500!!!!!
Man you gonna listen to your supervisors like that......now write them 500 SON!!!!!!!! :) ;)
Since we're on the subject of spelling...how about that "herd" CelicaGuy? :D
ILCadet401
03-04-08, 07:46 PM
Since we're on the subject of spelling...how about that "herd" CelicaGuy? :D
Nice find forumguy. CelicaGuy, you know the drill. 500 times! ;)
CelicaGuy
03-04-08, 07:48 PM
I am the hard-a$$ here..........
ILCadet401
03-04-08, 10:49 PM
I am the hard-a$$ here..........
Hard a$$es don't make spelling errors! :D
...
I know what thats going to get me...
I will not disrespect CelicaGuy
I will not disrespect CelicaGuy
I will not .... ;)
CelicaGuy
03-04-08, 11:25 PM
See you guys know who is boss.......lol!!!!! :)
My explorers like to mouth off, then they get that scared look on their faces......then they just lay on thier stomach and start pushing before I even have to say anything!
ILCadet401
03-05-08, 05:28 PM
Haha CelicaGuy...thats awesome.
I'm kind of like that...as a Sergeant (spelled correctly) some fellow cadets like to make jokes....I can't make them do pushups, so I just volunteer them to be my guinea pig on how to properly apply a hammerlock ;) ...Ha just kidding (kind of..) Anyway, most of the comments made by my fellow cadets are pretty hilarious.
I'd like to hear some of the comments made by some of the explorers in your (everybodys) posts. I'm in the mood for a laugh...
Just as long as there RP friendly :p
nadler20
03-05-08, 06:22 PM
BTW, nice segue ILCadet.
I guess I'll start. A bunch of us sign up for an OLCC (Oregon Liquor Control Commision) sting where we go and purchase alcohol as minors. It's the night of the operation and we are all gathered in a meeting room with officers from all different precincts and OLCC agents as well. One of the OLCC guys introduces himself as Agent Smith from the OLCC and out of no where this chick blurts out, "What's OLCC?" Everyone had a good laugh and nobody told what it was either :D
CelicaGuy
03-05-08, 06:59 PM
I called one of my explorers a "wanna-be" joking of course, and he looked and said without thinking he said "I am a gonna-be, not a wanna-be."
How about I was standing in front of the explorers instructing on Domestic Crisis Intervention. I was then asked to step out of the room to talk to my co-advisor, I was spoken to by him about something one of the explorers said. When I walked in the room I told them that they are a team and that "Sh!t rools downhill, one of my LT's looked at me and said, "then why are you at the top!!!!!" I just busted out laughing!!!!!!! He only got a week long suspention and 250 pushups AND situps!!!
nadler20
03-05-08, 08:49 PM
I called one of my explorers a "wanna-be" joking of course, and he looked and said without thinking he said "I am a gonna-be, not a wanna-be."
Good attitude from the "gonna-be." I like it.
How about I was standing in front of the explorers instructing on Domestic Crisis Intervention. I was then asked to step out of the room to talk to my co-advisor, I was spoken to by him about something one of the explorers said. When I walked in the room I told them that they are a team and that "Sh!t rools downhill, one of my LT's looked at me and said, "then why are you at the top!!!!!" I just busted out laughing!!!!!!! He only got a week long suspention and 250 pushups AND situps!!!
Pretty funny, but I hope it was worth it. That suspension won't too good on his record.
nadler20
03-05-08, 09:01 PM
Might I also make yet another piggyback topic to this thread? Cadet mishaps whether it be at competitions, on personal time, with vehicles, etc., that you have heard of from different people. No need to name the department unless you want ;)
ILCadet401
03-05-08, 09:18 PM
CelicaGuy, I busted out laughing from your Lt. story. Thats funny stuff.
Nadler: I hope were not breaking any rules by going so off topic...but it hasn't been locked yet, so I guess not.
As for mishaps...I've got PLENTY. I won't share them all, but, I will tell you one of my own. My first event was the local festival, and my job was to stand at my post and not let any traffic through. It seemed simple enough, until the screamers started coming out. So I kept getting the lip from these people, and I was too new to realize that I should have just called an officer. Anyways, this mustang pulls up, rolls down her window, and starts off by saying..."HEY WHATS YOUR NAME!?" So as the new cadet that I was, I stated: "Ma'am you do not need to know my name. I am going to ask you to please turn your vehicle around, due to the festival in town." She kind of laughed, and said "Why!?!". So, I replied with, "Ma'am, please don't ask me questions, please direct them to my advisor, who can be found at (so and so location)." I said this with sort of a, 'I'm already tired of this' attitude. (AGAIN, I was new, I would never act that way now). So, she says, "Why would I go all the way over there when I can just call him on my cell phone?" It was then that it hit me that this was my advisor's girlfriend I was talking to.
Luckily she was cool about it and laughed because she knew I was new. My advisor gave me some ribbing though. :rolleyes:
Sorry for the long post, didn't mean to make it that long. I'll save the good mishaps for a later date.
patrick smith
03-05-08, 10:05 PM
Haha!
I like that one!
Heres a story but not a mishap:
After working a long Margi Gras parade a few police officers and I were putting away the barricades. I was busy disconnecting one when a middle aged man staggered up to me and starting telling me that I should use his truck for loading them up. I told him "Thank you sir, but I think we can manage. Thanks for offering." He kind of staggered around seemingly having trouble understanding what I told him. After a while he stumbled away.
:D
Once at a football game an explorer was trying to tell a 6ft tall civilian that he couldn't go up a stair and the civilian was cursing at him and yelling at him because he was only an explorer. He didn't notice a 250lb tough very muscular Police Officer walking up behind him. Needless to say, he was very polite to the officer. :D
nadler20
03-05-08, 10:14 PM
Nice...:D
FYI, when your gonna pick up a prostitute, make sure she's not doing a sting for the agency you're a cadet at. Seriously.
ILCadet401
03-05-08, 10:31 PM
Nice...:D
FYI, when your gonna pick up a prostitute, make sure she's not doing a sting for the agency you're a cadet at. Seriously.
....Eh, too easy.
So, needless to say, I NEED to hear the story behind this..(even though it did come in a little bit randomly)
nadler20
03-05-08, 10:55 PM
One night about 10 years ago, a particular agency was running an undercover prostitution sting. Everything was going well, picking up plenty of Johns, when one young man inquires about the services of one lady of the night. Well surprise! It's officer Too-Hot-Not-To-Be-A-Cop :eek:. They're in the process of booking the feller when he feels the need to notify them he is in fact a cadet with their agency. Maybe he thought he could get out of it, I don't know :rolleyes:. So of course all the officers are rollin about this one, especially since the cadet advisor is on patrol that shift. Instead of notifying the advisor by phone, MDT, or an un used radio channel, the arresting officer gets on the air and says something to the effect of, "Hey Smith, this is Johnson at the sting and we have one of your cadets. Might want to come pick him up." Unfortunately for the advisor she wasn't in the patrol car. She was in the report writing room with all the other officers just about to get off for the night :D. Now that would be a walk of shame.
ILCadet401
03-05-08, 11:09 PM
....Holy crap!
That is by far one of the funniest stories I've heard lately...Just imagine how much ribbing that cadet got.
...And I hope that cadet wasn't you nadler :D.
nadler20
03-05-08, 11:14 PM
I can't even begin to imagine. I assume he was kicked out, can't remember.
Wanna know how it couldn't have been me? I don't pick up the hookers with all their teeth. :eek:
CelicaGuy
03-06-08, 12:23 AM
....Holy crap!
That is by far one of the funniest stories I've heard lately...Just imagine how much ribbing that cadet got.
...And I hope that cadet wasn't you nadler :D.
That would be a suspendable item to add to my list ILC!
ILCadet401
03-06-08, 05:50 PM
That would be a suspendable item to add to my list ILC!
Haha, that is why I would not make it very long in your program ;) :D
nadler20
03-16-08, 07:21 PM
We were going over less lethals, in particular the bean bag shotgun, and a kid raises his hand and asks, "Do they make bean bag rocket launchers?" The advisor starts laughing, along with everyone else in the room, and the advisor says, "You mean bag-zookas?!" Then the kid says, "Yeah, I saw it on the Simpsons." That's when it stopped being funny because he was dead serious. :rolleyes:
Later we were doing some firearms training, and some asked about racking it (The Glock) too hard. My advisor says something to the effect of, "Yep, be forceful you won't break it. Hell if you can rip the slide off I'll buy you a steak dinner." Then another kid puts his hand out as if he's gonna tear the slide off. We all had a good laugh. Then my advsior looks at him all serious and says, "Looking at those twigs you call arms you'd be lucky to even **** the thing!" It was kinda sad cuz it was true but nevertheless, hilarious :D
CelicaGuy
03-16-08, 09:49 PM
Good attitude from the "gonna-be." I like it.
Pretty funny, but I hope it was worth it. That suspension won't too good on his record.
I am the only one with the record of it, it was in fun but disrespect no matter what is not tolerated in my post. So, if I see that he hasn't done anything, when they call me for a reference, which I expect all my explorers will write me as one, I will tell them that he was a great explorer, nothing to mention about the suspention!
CelicaGuy
03-16-08, 09:51 PM
No funny stories about messups that I can think of, I will try to think of some tonight at work!