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vadep
11-13-03, 11:04 PM
IOC to allow transsexual athletes in Olympics

By STEPHEN WILSON, AP Sports Writer
November 13, 2003
LONDON (AP) -- Athletes who have undergone sex change operations will be eligible to compete in the Olympics for the first time under new rules being finalized by the IOC.

The International Olympic Committee convened a meeting in Sweden last month of medical experts in the field and will announce its policy in the next few weeks.

``We will have no discrimination,'' IOC medical director Patrick Schamasch told The Associated Press on Thursday. ``The IOC will respect human rights.''

Details are still being worked out, but Schamasch said transsexual athletes will be eligible for the Olympics once they have passed a certain amount of time after sex-change surgery.

``The trend is to have an ineligibility period,'' he said. ``Then after certain conditions have been fulfilled, the athlete will be able to compete in his or her new sex.''

The exact length of the waiting period hasn't been determined. Schamasch said officials want to make sure that any side effects of hormone therapy have worn off.

Schamasch said he didn't know whether there were any potential transsexual athletes in line to compete in next summer's Athens Olympics, but noted that several international sports federations have asked the IOC for guidance.

``We need to be proactive,'' he said.

The rule covers both male-to-female and female-to-male cases.

Some contend transsexual athletes have a physical advantage against other women. Men have higher levels of testosterone and greater muscle-to-fat ratio and heart and lung capacity. However, doctors say, testosterone levels and muscle mass drop after hormone therapy and sex-change surgery.........





So which team do they compete on? As their former sex or current? Full story here (http://sports.yahoo.com/oly/news;_ylc=X3oDMTBpNWZic251BF9TAzI1NjY0ODI1BHNlYwN0 aA--?slug=ap-transsexualathletes&prov=ap&type=lgns)


EHStaley
11-14-03, 09:52 AM
Announcer- "Here is Sandra Smith, a 6'8'' 340 lbs woman from Montana to compete in women's wrestling for the USA."

Orleander
11-14-03, 10:02 AM
Why would they do that? Not because I think its wrong, but how many sex change olympic quality athletes are out there? They might as well say they will let Bigfoot compete. :rolleyes:


Zendik
11-14-03, 10:04 AM
You call this social evolution? I would call it social de-evolution... But hey if some dude wants to wear a dress who am I to throw a fit! Just don't ask me to dance....

Jynkxxie
11-14-03, 10:23 AM
Zendik...would you like to dance???

If there truely is a difference between the physical abilities between a man and a women I believe they should be separate here. If you were born a man you should compete as a man. I don't care if the hormones you took gave you boobies or not. And the same I feel is true for the women, though I don't know to many that way around. LOL This to me, if I am reading it correctly sounds like fraud, which makes the whole thing become a joke.

Zendik
11-14-03, 10:42 AM
Sure! Jynkxxie but can I dance like Elaine from Seinfeld?

Jynkxxie
11-14-03, 11:09 AM
Well I am not much for Seinfeld...But as long as you don't dress up as "The Happy Armadillo Santa"..*Friends*..I think we will be o.k.

Orleander
11-14-03, 11:11 AM
Originally posted by Zendik
Sure! Jynkxxie but can I dance like Elaine from Seinfeld?

Is that where she looks like a cat trying to hack up a furr ball?

mrbelvetron
11-14-03, 12:23 PM
Originally posted by Jynkxxie
Well "The Happy Armadillo Santa"..*Friends*..I think we will be o.k.


:D LOL!! That was a pretty good episode.




BTW, Ross was the Happy Hanukkah Armadillo. Sorry, but as a rabid Friends fan, I tend to nitpick a little.

Jynkxxie
11-14-03, 12:26 PM
Oh No My Bad....LOL I couldn't remember what he called himself. There was a phrase for it, but it was basically him trying to do the opposite/likness of the Santa concept, to teach his little boy and get him excited about Hanukkah (sp)....LOL

mrbelvetron
11-14-03, 12:34 PM
Originally posted by Jynkxxie
Oh No My Bad....LOL I couldn't remember what he called himself. There was a phrase for it, but it was basically him trying to do the opposite/likness of the Santa concept, to teach his little boy and get him excited about Hanukkah (sp)....LOL

Best line in that episode,

Chandler: My favourite part was when Superman flew all the Jews out Egypt.(sarcastic voice to Joey, dresses as Superman.)

mrbelvetron
11-14-03, 01:01 PM
Found a pic.

http://www.friends-serie.de/image/7104.jpg

Jynkxxie
11-14-03, 01:17 PM
LMFAO!!! ROTF.

Delta
11-14-03, 01:25 PM
Finally, I can try out for the Olympics, What do you think I should compete in

Jynkxxie
11-14-03, 01:28 PM
Pole Vaulting...:)

Delta
11-14-03, 01:29 PM
I lost my pole

EHStaley
11-14-03, 01:32 PM
Originally posted by Delta
Finally, I can try out for the Olympics, What do you think I should compete in

Dang next time give us a warning. Some of us havent eaten yet. LOL.

Delta
11-14-03, 01:32 PM
haha

Darin
11-14-03, 06:36 PM
BWWWWWAAAAAAHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!


You said POLE vaulting.

Jynkxxie
11-14-03, 06:38 PM
Well someone got the pun I didn't intend to make. ;)

Sgt. Pepper
11-15-03, 03:56 AM
Zendik.. there is a diffrence between transsexual and transvestite

A transsexual is a person who alters their physical appearance either by operation or hormones to become a member of the opposite sex. Transsexuals can be either female to male (FtM) or male to female (MtF) and are sometimes referred to as "post-opt" after surgery.

A transgender person is one that crosses gender boundaries or a man or woman that adopts the attributes of the opposite sex. The sexual preference of a transgender person often varies.

A transvestite is a man or woman that dresses in the clothing of the opposite sex. A transvestite is also known as a drag queen (a man who dresses in women's clothing), a drag king (a woman who dresses in men's clothing) or cross dresser.