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Here's the link to the article in the Danbury News Times: link (http://www.newstimeslive.com/news/story.php?id=1186568726&source=tabbox).

This "drama" has been going on for a while now in this area, and basically the newspaper stories and comments have been along the lines of, "They are a hard working family and they were trying to become residents. Why are they being persecuted?"

The parents have been in this country for 18 years, while trying to supposedly "legalize their status" for the past ten years.

Maybe I'm the only one who sees it this way, but they either came to this country illegally (making them criminals) or they came on a visa of some sort that expired. Once it expired they stayed (making them criminals.)

It seems as though I'm the only person who looks at this and thinks, "Maybe when they visa expired, if they couldn't obtain legal status at that point, they should have left." That has never, ever been mentioned in any of the numerous articles in the local papers regarding this family.

It seems to me that the papers and the supporters who write in feel that every person on the planet has a right to come to the country to live, and that as long as they say they are trying to "legalize their status" that ought to be good enough to let them live here.

I am just a bit frustrated by the way this case is being described in the media. It's always, "Look at the poor family and how they are being mistreated."

The "poor family" created this situation by breaking the law, in my opinion. Now the mean and nasty government is supposed ignore the same law these people broke or they will be perceived as uncaring and unreasonable.



/rant over.

Yep. They brooke the law and now we're the bad guys.:rolleyes:

They should drive(illegally) to New Haven, get one of those Illegal Immigrant ID cards, and get put on the list of "people to stop in and visit" by ICE :D

The "poor family" created this situation by breaking the law, in my opinion. Now the mean and nasty government is supposed ignore the same law these people broke or they will be perceived as uncaring and unreasonable.

It is very frustrating that this is true. What bothers me more is that people expect the government to have a conscience and "do the right thing". The government really only needs to do one thing, obey the law and enforce it equitably. All illegals are treated equally...deport.

Yes, this is tough. It's hard to separate a family.

At least this family was productive. You should see the "families" of dirt bags who auctally get legal status. Look at all the Cubans. Whatever their background as soon as they hit dry land they get legal status. There are plenty of Cuban criminals running around.

She's a citizen so when she turns 18 she can apply for legal status for her family. I'm sure that's been explained to her.

Mobrien, laws can be changed-someday, hopefully soon, the very familie's you want to persecute and deal with will be there for you to protect-That'll be you're job, since you follow the law without questioning its 'emotional' side. I just wish I'd hear someone feel some remorse for those families even if they did 'enforce' the law, but it seems most of you guys are out to hurt someone-like something personal's been done to you, when we all know the majority of immigrants are good people. I know sympathy is probably not permited here (I wouldn't make a good cop). BP-You know what's worse than those cuban 'Criminals'? That some of the most criminal prone humans, those with tendencies to feel both physical and mental power because they represent the ultimate, visual aspect of a law, hide behind beautiful badges.

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Yeah Sarge, you are now going to be labeled a Fascist and Abuser by this guy. I had the same comments thrown at me in another thread dealing with the same subject, because I believe that these people are criminals and thus should be treated so.

You know Samuel08, you come on a forum full of police and try to push your left wing liberal BS, and when people disagree with you you resort to name calling. You don't know me from Adam and yet because I think the way I do, I am a fascist, abuser and now I'm a Criminal prone human being that hides behind a badge? No one asked you to come here and if you can't accept reality without resorting to accusations and name calling, maybe you should just move on. You are right about one thing though. If you ever were a Police Office, with and attitude like you have, you would never make it. Until you can pin this badge on every day, strap on this sidearm, and go out there with the poor Illegals that are being persecuted as you put it, don't tell us how we should or shouldn't do our jobs or what to think in the daily process of doing our jobs. You can't refuse to enforce laws just because you don't agree with them and yes, if it ever happens that these laws change (Heaven Forbid) we will protect these people too like it or not.

I say let them stay. As long as they aren't arrested for anything just waive their overstay and give them status..






Oh ya,


Troll response, troll response, troll response....


Just trying to see if I can get my post removed! :D



just messin with ya Greenlead! :p

Mobrien, laws can be changed-someday, hopefully soon, the very familie's you want to persecute and deal with will be there for you to protect-That'll be you're job, since you follow the law without questioning its 'emotional' side. I just wish I'd hear someone feel some remorse for those families even if they did 'enforce' the law, but it seems most of you guys are out to hurt someone-like something personal's been done to you, when we all know the majority of immigrants are good people. I know sympathy is probably not permited here (I wouldn't make a good cop). BP-You know what's worse than those cuban 'Criminals'? That some of the most criminal prone humans, those with tendencies to feel both physical and mental power because they represent the ultimate, visual aspect of a law, hide behind beautiful badges.

There is no such thing as an "emotional side" of the law. The law is created as a guideline for ALL to follow in order to keep a society operating smoothly. If anything we have already screwed up our legal system by being too hard on the cops for just trying to do their job. The political action groups pisz and moan about civil rights and crap instead of actually trying to do something to help all people. A guy kills six people but if the cops tackle him too hard then suddenly all these morons come out of the woodwork talking about how we violated his rights. B.S.! Once you break the law, especially with violent crimes, you shouldn't even have any rights. I'm fine with not allowing senseless abuse or racial selectivity abuse but the crap that is happening now a days is just wrong. Criminals going free or getting lesser jail terms because of some silly little thing a cop did. If the cop goes to far, FINE, punish the cop but don't let the bad guy go because of it. If you are mistreated that is wrong and needs to be addressed but by no means does it mean you shouldn't also be punished for the initial crime you did there in forcing us into the situation that results. by doing stuff like that it is a slap in the face of all the victims and their families. No, laws are laws. Once they are there they need to be equally enforced and emotion has no business in the conversation. No one person should get off just because they can make us feel more sorry for them than someone else.

]Tate, I'm not a leftist-that's too simple a label. I aslo don't mean to offend, just trying to have some dialogue-

Have your dialogue somewhere else.

BP-You know what's worse than those cuban 'Criminals'? That some of the most criminal prone humans, those with tendencies to feel both physical and mental power because they represent the ultimate, visual aspect of a law, hide behind beautiful badges.

You are walking on thin ice with that statement. What evidence do you possess, real evidence, that police officers are "some of the most criminal prone humans" ???

You are bordering, not only with this post, but others as well, on intentional anti-law enforcement trolling.

Best mind your manners while a guest in our house.

Samuel08-we are the law-we represent it to the fullest. We do what we do beause it's asked of us to do it, no matter if it's right or wrong. I don't care if a family is torn apart and a child is left motherless or fatherless-They are CRIMINALS-they disobeyed and that child will suffer the consequences of his or her parent's actions.

Samuel08-we are the law-we represent it to the fullest. We do what we do beause it's asked of us to do it, no matter if it's right or wrong. I don't care if a family is torn apart and a child is left motherless or fatherless-They are CRIMINALS-they disobeyed and that child will suffer the consequences of his or her parent's actions.

BIG has called you out as a dumb@ss, once in the Cindy Sheehan thread. Must he, must he, must he do it again??

You're spouting nonsense, again. You're the polar opposite of samuel08, yet BIG suspects you are in fact samuel08. Remove your head form your @$$ and get a life kid. :mad:

Holy crap I'm glad someone banned that guy. I owe someone some green.

BP348 nearly blew a gasket when he read that response :mad:

Samuel08-we are the law-we represent it to the fullest. We do what we do beause it's asked of us to do it, no matter if it's right or wrong. I don't care if a family is torn apart and a child is left motherless or fatherless-They are CRIMINALS-they disobeyed and that child will suffer the consequences of his or her parent's actions.

bambam
I want you to think about what you've just said. We are all human beings on this planet. So you were born in the united states that makes you lucky. Most immigrants that immigrate to the united states is looking for freedom just as you were born into it. I really hope you would take back what you've said in this statement. This makes you a monster with no feelings, who should never ever have the right to be in law enforcement. I fear you might be a corrupted officer if you believe in what you've said. The law is the law I agree. We have to look at it in there shoes too. Should we deport their parents and have the children go on welfare?? I say if the parents are making a living which is able to support their own, LET THEM BE!

Here's the link to the article in the Danbury News Times: link (http://www.newstimeslive.com/news/story.php?id=1186568726&source=tabbox).

This "drama" has been going on for a while now in this area, and basically the newspaper stories and comments have been along the lines of, "They are a hard working family and they were trying to become residents. Why are they being persecuted?"

The parents have been in this country for 18 years, while trying to supposedly "legalize their status" for the past ten years.

Maybe I'm the only one who sees it this way, but they either came to this country illegally (making them criminals) or they came on a visa of some sort that expired. Once it expired they stayed (making them criminals.)

It seems as though I'm the only person who looks at this and thinks, "Maybe when they visa expired, if they couldn't obtain legal status at that point, they should have left." That has never, ever been mentioned in any of the numerous articles in the local papers regarding this family.

It seems to me that the papers and the supporters who write in feel that every person on the planet has a right to come to the country to live, and that as long as they say they are trying to "legalize their status" that ought to be good enough to let them live here.

I am just a bit frustrated by the way this case is being described in the media. It's always, "Look at the poor family and how they are being mistreated."

The "poor family" created this situation by breaking the law, in my opinion. Now the mean and nasty government is supposed ignore the same law these people broke or they will be perceived as uncaring and unreasonable.



/rant over. I agree with you they want people to fill sorry for them breaking the law while they are in our Country breaking the laws. Maybe we should just release all the CDC prisoners cause they did not break the law ethier "Ya Right". Check out or Google Lou Dobbs from CNN and the Minutemen web site this will really piss you off but it is good stuf;)