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What basic defensive/offense tactics do training academies teach now a days?

By and large, most offer PPCT.

How to "Beat them down" and the art of making a beating look like a resisting suspect being restrained!

How to "Beat them down" and the art of making a beating look like a resisting suspect being restrained!
But you don't learn that until you've been on the job.:D

What basic defensive/offense tactics do training academies teach now a days?

All sorts. Depends on where you go and who's teaching it...

All sorts. Depends on where you go and who's teaching it...


That's very true... When I was in the CG we learned all kinds of great Phys. Tactics and such. Then when I went to Customs we learned how to refer to everyone as "clients" and "customers" and that we are, above all, supposed to be nice and polite and not upset anyone! Of course I agree totally, I mean, why not make a concerted effort to please everyone, border security just takes care of itself without any of us actually DOING anything!:mad:

Each department is different, some do very good training, others want to but don't have the resources or money and others have managers that don't put a lot of thought or concern into training... sadly. From my experiance however, even if you don't get trained well you can always put forth the effort and attend courses yourself through the various LE training companys and such. It's worth your time to try to learn as much as you can, it may save your life someday... or mine! :)

It's worth your time to try to learn as much as you can, it may save your life someday... or mine!

Bolded and quoted for emphasis. :) (and hey, if your department doesn't reimburse you, you can still write it off!)

What basic defensive/offense tactics do training academies teach now a days?

How to get the upper hand quickly and defend yourself against a threat, whilst affecting an arrest.

That's it in a nutshell, but I'm not one to go into detail about tactics of any kind.

They have CPI, and PPCT, and PMAP, and all these other acronyms...

I like WIT.... whatever it takes.

Then when I went to Customs we learned how to refer to everyone as "clients" and "customers" and that we are, above all, supposed to be nice and polite and not upset anyone!

Our agency suffers from that disease as well. You gotta love arresting someone for trespassing, he threatens to "take care" of you when he sees you out of uniform, then he files a complaint that you weren't polite enough to him and his complaints are sustained. I'm pushing for a new nationwide motto: "Federal Law Enforcement: You're totally expendible in our eyes.":mad:

Our agency suffers from that disease as well. You gotta love arresting someone for trespassing, he threatens to "take care" of you when he sees you out of uniform, then he files a complaint that you weren't polite enough to him and his complaints are sustained. I'm pushing for a new nationwide motto: "Federal Law Enforcement: You're totally expendible in our eyes.":mad:


Hehehehehe... I'd buy THAT on a bumper sticker!! :D

What exactly does PPCT stand for? You folks out west use that acronym a lot but I'm on the right coast curiously wondering.

As for training, we've had a few different "systems". We've had an Aikido (control) based system, then a SEAL based one (smash people and whatnot), and currently a hybrid mix of the two. :D

What exactly does PPCT stand for?
Pressure Point Control Tactics

www.PPCT.com

Pressure Point Control Tactics

www.PPCT.com

Okie dokie, thanks.

I am reminded of my first academy, many years ago, when we had the number two person in our agency come visit the academy. He wanted to see a class being taught basic defensive tactics, but the only problem was we were only a week or so from graduation and had moved on past that.

So they told us they were going to pretend to teach them to us again when he showed up and for us to ask questions like we were learning them for the first time.

When he and his entourage showed up, the instructors picked the smallest guy in the class, who we had nicknamed 'Louie" for Louis DePalma from Taxi. Two big strapping instructors proceeded to put Louie through numerous arm bars, arm bar takedowns, hammerlocks, double hammerlocks, etc. as the head instructor described them.

He then asked if we had any questions and our head smartass from the Bronx raised his hand.
"Yeah, I got a question. Will those techniques work on adults as well?"

It pretty much broke up the fake demonstration.

Hello companions, I write to you from Spain and I am using a translator, I request pardon if the translation is not very good.

I belong to the National Body of Police, and here and Spain the knowledge of Self-defense that they train to you in the Academy are minimum, insufficient for the work in the street.

If you want to be prepared you must find by your means a trainer, place to train, etc… I for example practice police self-defense, police shot, etc… I have made several courses on protection and security, defensive shot, police shot, etc… a infinity of courses and the great majority paid for by my.

Until this does not change I will have to pay for my formation to me. I believe that you, in the U.S.A., teneis very many more formation than in Spain.

Greetings from Spain.
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"Yeah, I got a question. Will those techniques work on adults as well?" Hahahaha that was a pretty good one why yeah thats called pushing your fingers into the suspect's neck and takeing him down, hiding the activity, and make it look like you sit him down :D im about 5,7 5,6 150/160 lbs, I could use any way possible without DF My Instructer who is in LE, teaches some good classes on that, People allways have questions on that, thats why we train with different sizes, train with full-contact,etc, I have 5 months, before i can apply at any PD, sheriff department etc, I will be 21 then, but i have a question, what is it like when you get passed all the tests, Psy,written,Phy,and any other one, What is it like at the Academy? Do they have a Height Recommendation, do they Test over more math and written subjects etc? Sorry to cause so much trouble,

God bless.

"Yeah, I got a question. Will those techniques work on adults as well?" Hahahaha that was a pretty good one why yeah thats called pushing your fingers into the suspect's neck and takeing him down, hiding the activity, and make it look like you sit him down :D im about 5,7 5,6 150/160 lbs, I could use any way possible without DF My Instructer who is in LE, teaches some good classes on that, People allways have questions on that, thats why we train with different sizes, train with full-contact,etc, I have 5 months, before i can apply at any PD, sheriff department etc, I will be 21 then, but i have a question, what is it like when you get passed all the tests, Psy,written,Phy,and any other one, What is it like at the Academy? Do they have a Height Recommendation, do they Test over more math and written subjects etc? Sorry to cause so much trouble,

God bless.


PLEASE, use the appropriate punctuation. Your post is very difficult to read without it. You will need to use it when you re writing police reports so you might as well get used to using it, correctly.

My instructor explained it to me this way. Basically what the state mandates we learn is techniques that are either ineffective or impractical. They are very safe and largely are meant to create distance. Any good DT instructor will teach what you need to know to pass the academy and then teach you what really works on the streets.

With the huge popularity of MMA in America, officers are running into more and more people who have some knowledge of submission grappling. The tactics (at least in my state) are horribly out of date and teach very little striking and little in the way fo ground fighting. We learn how to escape if someone grabs our uniform... but not how to defend various blood chokes (which if applied right can put you to sleep in only a few seconds).

In my opinion we are taught techniques that require minimal force in order to present a positive image to the "common folk" rather than what will save our lives.

They have CPI, and PPCT, and PMAP, and all these other acronyms...

I like WIT.... whatever it takes.

Okay there are a few of us that now know what WIT means would you care to translate CPI. PPCT, PMAP And by chance any others that show up:confused: