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I have heard, not only here but other places, that who ever invented the handcuffs didn't think the invention through. What could be improved or changed to make them better. I've thought and thought, but can't really come up with any changes.

I dunno, I think handcuffs work pretty well as they are. I always love to hear, can you do it in the front and loosen them a bit? They hurt... lol

But honestly I think the greatest innovation was the lock. So they can't get any tighter... --Jake

In the UK, we rarely use chain-handcuffs...

Instead, all officers are issued with solid cuffs...sometimes called KwikCuffs or SpeedCuffs...

They are superb...lots of 'purchase' and 'leverage' on a suspect...and once they are on, there's very little lateral movement that a suspect can achieve...

http://www.surplusandadventure.com/ishop/images/800/hiatt_speed_cuffs.jpg


I highly recommend you guys getting a pair....

Yeah speedcuffs are great, not only does it open up a huge array of compliance techniques but they are also next to impossible to get out of.

Girls use Rigid cuffs. Go Chainlinks, go chainlinks, go chainlinks.:p

I still use my rigids too!:D

The rigid cuffs have only one real problem I've noticed the don't "close" small enough. The other night we had a 'orrible violent skanky female creature/herion addict in rigid cuffs only to find her slipping out of them. For an unknown reason the officers cuffed her front stack?
I placed my chainlinks in between her hands and the rigids and she couldn't get free.

Now if we were issued with the newish folding ones and they closed donw smaller, I'd ditch my linkies, save for plain clothes work.

I have heard, not only here but other places, that who ever invented the handcuffs didn't think the invention through. What could be improved or changed to make them better. I've thought and thought, but can't really come up with any changes.

I'm not really sure I get the whole point of this thread. Are we supposed to be coming up with ideas to make handcuffs better? Okay, how about adding some padding maybe in the form of pink fur? Oh wait, I think that may have already been done...

:rolleyes:

Lol, no no. I made this because I have heard quite a few people say that whoever invented them, should have been shot. I didn't see the reason for those people saying that, so I was just wondering what could have been changed.:D

I saw some this evening made of gummy candy... I thought that was a pretty good idea. I like me some gummy candy.

I saw some this evening made of gummy candy... I thought that was a pretty good idea. I like me some gummy candy.
Are they NIJ approved? :D

Maybe cuffs with a little battery pack and a remote to give electric shocks at will... Sweet.

Here we use chain link but they are looking for rigid. The rigid look good from a compliance point of view, but personally I wonder how easy they are to get on in the first place, as chain links give you manouvering room if he's struggling.

I wonder are hinged a better in between solution. Also, how does a plain clothes member carry rigid cuffs in the UK?

Lol, no no. I made this because I have heard quite a few people say that whoever invented them, should have been shot.Really? Who?

Deputies, Police Officers, and one state trooper

Deputies, Police Officers, and one state trooper
And they have better ideas? Ideas that are better than what's been used for decades? I've not heard one single law abiding citizen, or Cop say what you say was said. :confused: I am a Deputy... but I didn't say it. Which Deputy said it?

And they have better ideas? Ideas that are better than what's been used for decades? I've not heard one single law abiding citizen, or Cop say what you say was said. :confused: I am a Deputy... but I didn't say it. Which Deputy said it?



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You wouldn't happen to have a school project due about improving police equipment or something similar??

Which Deputy said it?


In all respect, even if I said his/their name, you wouldn't know them. The main one that started the conversation has been in law enforcement for 11 years, 6 of them being with the department I am a member of. He is also an FTO. PM me if you wish to know more, I wouldn't want to say his name in public.



You wouldn't happen to have a school project due about improving police equipment or something similar??

No sir, I actually have already graduated from high school. The only reason that I brought it here, is that I hardly see the original deputy that started the conversation, and I never really got to find out why that said that.

In all respect, even if I said his/their name, you wouldn't know them. The main one that started the conversation has been in law enforcement for 11 years, 6 of them being with the department I am a member of. He is also an FTO. PM me if you wish to know more, I wouldn't want to say his name in public.


Actually, I do not need to know. I find it difficult to believe a Cop would seriously say the person who invented handcuffs should be shot. IMHO, for you to repeat such an asinine statement shows your knowledge and experience in the matter of restraint.

Actually there have been improvements on regular handcuffs.
The new ones have fur on them.
Once you get thu Sex Education we will have
a father/son chat.

Actually, I do not need to know. I find it difficult to believe a Cop would seriously say the person who invented handcuffs should be shot. IMHO, for you to repeat such an asinine statement shows your knowledge and experience in the matter of restraint.

I still don't seem to understand why my question has raised this much alarm. I just wanted to know what other people thought about what he had said. I have never had to use them in an actual physical and violent act, so I don't really seem to understand why that statement was said. Please don't take my question as a a question of stupidity, I just don't really understand what could have been fixed.


Actually there have been improvements on regular handcuffs.
The new ones have fur on them.
Once you get thu Sex Education we will have
a father/son chat.

That was one of the most interesting classes in high school.........:D

Actually, I do not need to know. I find it difficult to believe a Cop would seriously say the person who invented handcuffs should be shot. IMHO, for you to repeat such an asinine statement shows your knowledge and experience in the matter of restraint.


here we go again....


The handcuffs design has stayed the same for years, however in the last few years they have seen some changes, mostly in the "links" and "locking mechanism". Handcuffs are so simplistic in their design yet it seems that they could and should evolve. You tend to hear about subjects slipping, picking or breaking out of cuffs more and more frequently lately….I think if the locks could be improved that would help, but I think if they could design some type of improvement that would not allow a small framed subject to slip them from the back to the front that would be beneficial to officer safety.

I think anyone working in law enforcement has encountered one or more of those pesky shape shifters that can contort their bodies into un believable shapes to maneuver the cuffs in front. Just thought I would contribute to the thread instead of criticizing the person who started it.

You tend to hear about subjects slipping, picking or breaking out of cuffs more and more frequently lately….No, I don't... If I did, I would have agreed, I think. Yes, I have had some slip their hands through, though they always tend to be very skinny females and was contributed by my lack of supervision. I have had both males and females bring the cuffs to the front, and if need be, proper hog tying was used. As for picking handcuffs... proper searches tend to deny that possibility. Never had a cuff picked on my watch.



I think if the locks could be improved that would help, but I think if they could design some type of improvement that would not allow a small framed subject to slip them from the back to the front that would be beneficial to officer safety. Flex Cuffs. They aren't perfect either, but they work great for the skinny ones. As for putting your hands up front with Flex Cuffs, it still happens. Short of locking ones elbows together, flexible people will be able.



I think anyone working in law enforcement has encountered one or more of those pesky shape shifters that can contort their bodies into un believable shapes to maneuver the cuffs in front. Just thought I would contribute to the thread instead of criticizing the person who started it.I'm harping on your repeating of the alleged statement, "Should be shot". Was just a stupid comment.

I'm harping on your repeating of the alleged statement, "Should be shot". Was just a stupid comment.

I think he was just kidding when he said it. I just repeated it because I thought it was needed in the text to express how he felt about it.

"Are there any improvements that you think would be benificial to current era handcuffs?"
(minus - that would avoid the possibility of the inventor to be shot)

You do realize this is ridiculous right? Is it possible to have a normal conversation with out all the bickering and childish banter? :rolleyes:

I'm harping on your repeating of the alleged statement, "Should be shot". Was just a stupid comment.


When did I repeat that statement?

Never took it away. Its there.

And I am not bickering...............

Thread needs to die.

Thread needs to die.

I agree, unfortunately it has been run into the ground...

I agree, unfortunately it has been run into the ground...Wonder how it would be taken if I said someone said the person who invented this thread should be shot? :D

That wouldnt be nice at all.......... :mad:

I'll notify Chuck Norris this thread may be in need of his "services".;)

Wonder how it would be taken if I said someone said the person who invented this thread should be shot? :D

lol....i have to give that one to ya that was good...

I'll notify Chuck Norris this thread may be in need of his "services".;)

Great, now someone is going to come in and start bringing up Jack Bauer and we're going to have to explain, once again, that Jack Bauer is a total sissy.