Police Officer Preparation & Law Enforcement Resource - Archive
The REAL POLICE FORUM is a leading community of police officers and law enforcement professionals. The forum includes police chat and restricted areas for police officers only. The ask-a-cop area allows you to ask questions to real police officers and only verified police are allowed to respond. REALPOLICE.com also features law enforcement jobs, news, training materials and expert articles.
01-25-06, 07:54 PM
Does anyone know how accurate this is. Pennsylvania has 3 feet and 5 feet? IACP is soon going to make standards for this just as Radar, etc. Also I read part-time cops cannot do this in PA only full-time. Does any of you professionals know anything about this subject? Tks :)
01-25-06, 08:02 PM
I'm not sure, but this might be what you're looking for?:
Pennsylvania Consolidated Statutes
THE VEHICLE CODE (TITLE 75)
PART III. OPERATION OF VEHICLES
CHAPTER 33. RULES OF THE ROAD IN GENERAL
Subchapter F - Speed Restrictions.
§ 3368. Speed timing devices.
(a) Speedometers authorized.--The rate of speed of any vehicle may be timed on any highway by a police officer using a motor vehicle equipped with a speedometer. In ascertaining the speed of a vehicle by the use of a speedometer, the speed shall be timed for a distance of not less than three-tenths of a mile.
(b) Testing of speedometers.--The department may appoint stations for testing speedometers and may prescribe regulations as to the manner in which the test shall be made. Speedometers shall have been tested for accuracy within a period of 60 days prior to the alleged violation. A certificate from the station showing that the test was made, the date of the test and the degree of accuracy of the speedometer shall be competent and prima facie evidence of those facts in every proceeding in which a violation of this title is charged.
(c) Mechanical, electrical and electronic devices authorized.--
Except as otherwise provided in this section, the rate of speed of any vehicle may be timed on any highway by a police officer using a mechanical or electrical speed timing device.
Except as otherwise provided in paragraph (3), electronic devices such as radio-microwave devices (commonly referred to as electronic speed meters or radar) may be used only by members of the Pennsylvania State Police.
Electronic devices which calculate speed by measuring elapsed time between measured road surface points by using two sensors and devices which measure and calculate the average speed of a vehicle between any two points may be used by any police officer.
No person may be convicted upon evidence obtained through the use of devices authorized by paragraphs (2) and (3) unless the speed recorded is six or more miles per hour in excess of the legal speed limit. Furthermore, no person may be convicted upon evidence obtained through the use of devices authorized by paragraph (3) in an area where the legal speed limit is less than 55 miles per hour if the speed recorded is less than ten miles per hour in excess of the legal speed limit. This paragraph shall not apply to evidence obtained through the use of devices authorized by paragraph (3) within a school zone.
(d) Classification, approval and testing of mechanical, electrical and electronic devices.--The department may, by regulation, classify specific devices as being mechanical, electrical or electronic. All mechanical, electrical or electronic devices shall be of a type approved by the department, which shall appoint stations for calibrating and testing the devices and may prescribe regulations as to the manner in which calibrations and tests shall be made. The certification and calibration of electronic devices under subsection (c)(3) shall also include the certification and calibration of all equipment, timing strips and other devices which are actually used with the particular electronic device being certified and calibrated. The devices shall have been tested for accuracy within a period of 60 days prior to the alleged violation. A certificate from the station showing that the calibration and test were made within the required period, and that the device was accurate, shall be competent and prima facie evidence of those facts in every proceeding in which a violation of this title is charged.
(e) Distance requirements for use of mechanical, electrical and electronic devices.--Mechanical, electrical or electronic devices may not be used to time the rate of speed of vehicles within 500 feet after a speed limit sign indicating a decrease of speed. This limitation on the use of speed timing devices shall not apply to speed limit signs indicating school zones, bridge and elevated structure speed limits, hazardous grade speed limits and work zone speed limits.
NOTE: I am not an officer, nor do I live in the State of Pennsylvania. I found this on a search of Yahoo. This information was taken from this site: PA Statutes (http://members.aol.com/StatutesP1/75PA3368.html)
02-24-06, 09:51 PM
Hmmm, Ive been a cop in PA for 11 years and I dont know what EN RADD is. Only tr, sorry TROOPERS can use radar. FOr now. I know the city of Pittsburgh is trying to get the law changed so they can use it. Local departments use VASCAR or Stopwatches calibrated every 60 days. Explain what En Radd is...
I have been a police officer in PA for 20 years and no idea what "En Radd" is.
The only thing that comes to mind with the 3 feet is ESP. We have an infrared ESP device that shoots two infrared beams across the road. As a car passes by , it breaks the first beam and starts a timer. As it breaks the 2nd beam , it stops the timer. These beams are 3 feet apart. It is all done by computer ( unlike VASCAR or Robic.) The ESP then does the math, ( speed = distance divided by time x 3600 which gives a mph readout.)
The 3 feet distance is built into the device and CANNOT be changed in any way by the officer.
As long as I have been here , there has been talk about allowing the local PD's to use radar. EVERY time it comes up ( which is every year) it gets shot down because our legislators and the bigshots of PSP simply DO NOT TRUST US TO HAVE IT !!
PA is THE only state that does not allow ( trust) municipal PD's to use radar. We can use several other speed timing devices which are more difficult to set up and run though.
Can PA officers use LIDAR/Laser?
03-02-06, 12:37 PM
I just retired after 20 years as a police officer in Pa, and I never heard of
En Radd either.
03-07-06, 12:07 AM
Soooo no further comment from Mister DIFFY?
Still dont know what EN Radd is...:confused:
04-04-06, 04:41 PM
I think I realized what EN -RADD means..
While responding to a call today I said "received, En Route" with the emphasis on root. not ROWT.
Maybe he is a scanner freak and hears En Route and thinks its En RADD.:confused:
04-05-06, 04:49 AM
Three friggin months, and I still have no idea what the heck "En Radd" is.
04-07-06, 09:28 PM
Chester County just outside of Philly uses Vascar.