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Im a 21 year old security guard and as everyone knows a security guard has no real power unlike a a police officer so the only thing guards are good for is the look any who i bought a umbrella with a sword handle when im in my uniform walking around with it its no real issue infact being in NY where cops are around every corner thay dont have a problem with me carrying but not to long ago walking around in my normal cloths i got stoped there reaction to the umbrella with a sword handle was a bit over the top never got a gun pulled out on me before it was a short lecture on how dumb thay thought it was and after that seend my ID and such thay let me go no harm done but what im wondering is.

Is it legal to carry a real sword around? (As long as its not easily accessible)Ex. Like in a zip up sword bag on my back clearly not consealed and cant be pulled out.

And im not too sure where swords stand under NYC knife law seeing as its WAY over 4 fingers.

And a side note the need to carry a sword is extreamly extreamly rare I just wanna make sure im not guned down by cops mistakeing my umbrella for a real sword I always thought most cops would use simple logic the time to takes to pull out a sword gives the normal cop enough time to empty there clip.

Look at Section 265.01 of New York Penal Law. I believe it outlaws sword canes and similar devices along with dirks, daggers and dangerous knives. Article 265 - Penal Law - Firearms and Other Dangerous Weapons (http://ypdcrime.com/penal.law/article265.htm#p265.01)

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So carrying a sword even with no intent of harming anyone or anything it is still. Criminal possession of a weapon in the fourth degree. ???

So where does an Umbrella with the sword handle stand on that list? (No hidden blade)

Perhaps I misunderstood what you have there. Is not the blade of the sword concealed in the handle of the umbrella?

If not, look at dirk, dagger and dangerous knife.

I don't see intent as being a element of the violation.

The only part of the umbrella that is hidden is the bottom half the handle however is exposed.

So, where is the blade? Is it exposed?

Again, periods are your friend.

The blade (Umbrella part) is not exposed the whole thing comes in a bag that u wear over your shoulder. So you will see the handle but you wont see the rest of it sence its behind your back.This is kinda hard to explain sence i can not upload a image yet. If you can google samurai sword handel umbrella you will get a good idea what im talking about.

I Googled it. If I understand things correctly, there is no blade or cutting edge. This is simply an umbrella whose handle looks like a sword handle. Is this correct?

Yes but NY state wise would someone be taken in for such a item or just stoped and checked.

I don't see a violation. However, if it reasonably appears to be a weapon, you can expect to be treated as an armed suspect until the nice officers determine to their satisfaction that you no longer pose a threat to them or the public. This may involve the drawing of weapons, proning you out, etc.

I get it now for the umbrella appear be as non threating as possable. And as for a real sword completly in its case no part sticking out would that be a violation (Traveling from point A to point B from home to Dojo).